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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by darren32
Okey dokey folks,

Below are a couple of pics of where I added the magnets.
Also figured out why my DFCM has oil on it, transfer case output shaft to the front end is leaking (last pic).

I will continue to look at any NEW information but I have nothing further to add on the HPFP issue.

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Looks like a logical way to install the magnets. But my question...do you think they are strong enough?


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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by biz4two
Looks like a logical way to install the magnets. But my question...do you think they are strong enough?


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Not too sure, they are what I could get quickly and easily. Each one will hold up 3 kg IIRC. We will find out in about 1,000 kM!

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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by darren32
Not too sure, they are what I could get quickly and easily. Each one will hold up 3 kg IIRC. We will find out in about 1,000 kM!

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You can alawys remove the cover and drop a few metal shavings to see if they do indeed stick to the wall where the magnets are. I was thinking about the long style magnets more like a rectangle so they would cover more area on the cover. You could have one on each side of the cover. something like this one.

 
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 07:14 PM
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How 'bout measuring the diameter of the housing and git you one of THESE.

I mean...they are made for this kind of thing after all. And they can be as powerful as 800 lbs of pull force!
 
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy001
How 'bout measuring the diameter of the housing and git you one of THESE.

I mean...they are made for this kind of thing after all. And they can be as powerful as 800 lbs of pull force!
Yikes, 800 lb, I don't want to suck the crank shaft into the DFCM! Or other vehicles driving by..... Those look pretty cool.

Thanks also Prince for the suggestions.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by darren32
Yikes, 800 lb, I don't want to suck the crank shaft into the DFCM! Or other vehicles driving by..... Those look pretty cool.

Thanks also Prince for the suggestions.
My pleasure
 
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 08:32 PM
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I use the RA365 on my corvette oil filter. It almost completely wraps the oil filter. It does pull metal flakes. This is for sure.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 08:36 PM
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I use the RA365 on my corvette oil filter. It almost completely wraps the oil filter. It does pull metal flakes. This is for sure.
That looks like a winner for this application.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 08:43 PM
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The best thing to do is to not read the HPFP topics some evenings.
Except for this one but couldn't open the others tonight.
I get sucked into them too and get overly concerned because this isn't a truck I get to purchase very often so that doesn't help my thought process.

800 lbs...good grief.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by darren32
OK, here is some good news.........

I just talked to NADP (North American Diesel Performance), they are the ones that tuned my truck. They are pretty in the know up here as fas as diesel performance goes. In a city of about 750,000 people (correct me if I am wrong) they have tuned over 600 of the 11/12 6.7's. I would say that is pretty good exposure to the 'ol 6.7. NADP staff has not heard of a single HPFP failure!! If these pumps are failing in large numbers I think NADP would have heard something.......

Further to this, they phoned a parts guy that they know at a major ford dealer here (who they say sells a ton of 6.7's) and the guy had not heard of a single failure at that dealership.

Soooooo, if NADP has tuned over 600 6.7's, I would venture to guess that there would be thousands of tuned 6.7's up here (a lot of guys do it themselves) and many many more thousands of stock trucks driving around in a city of 750,000. And I can't find a failure.

Maybe it's too early, I don't know.

But what I do want to know is why there is metal in my fuel filter?

Come on Epic, tear in there and get us a video, I'm on the edge of my seat here
finally got around to changing the fuel filters. saw some specks of something black and also of aluminum color. not sure if came off the knife i used. i cut up both filters and they were actually pretty clean except for what i mentioned above. housing was fairly clean also. put 21 k miles and this was my first filter change. pulled my 15k excel 5vr from albuquerque, nm to los angeles, ca once and twice to go hunting in the gila forest. about 5200 hundred miles. 2k miles pulling my flatbed utility trailer weighting about 6-7 k. the rest of the miles just going here and there. so far i am pleased with my 6.7.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by kper05
The best thing to do is to not read the HPFP topics some evenings.
Except for this one but couldn't open the others tonight.
I get sucked into them too and get overly concerned because this isn't a truck I get to purchase very often so that doesn't help my thought process.
Yes, I think you nailed it! I am taking a HPFP break!

Originally Posted by marine57_4
finally got around to changing the fuel filters. saw some specks of something black and also of aluminum color. not sure if came off the knife i used. i cut up both filters and they were actually pretty clean except for what i mentioned above. housing was fairly clean also. put 21 k miles and this was my first filter change. pulled my 15k excel 5vr from albuquerque, nm to los angeles, ca once and twice to go hunting in the gila forest. about 5200 hundred miles. 2k miles pulling my flatbed utility trailer weighting about 6-7 k. the rest of the miles just going here and there. so far i am pleased with my 6.7.
Thanks for the report.
 
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Old May 25, 2012 | 08:07 AM
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10,000 km update

I feel bad draging this back up cuz things have been really cool around here but here we go..........

This is only 10,000 kM (6,000 miles) since my post #1.

It's still there, and there is a lot of it.

It is all steel, there is no aluminum that I can tell.

The magnets worked good. Almost all of it was at the magnet, there was very little in the filter. HOWEVER, there is a problem with the magnet thing... The magnet sucks the shavings into the bottom of the threads. You can't put the magnets any lower because the bottom (smaller) part of the DFCM is on the "clean" side of the filter so it would be useless. With all that metal in the threads the DFCM bowl is VERY hard to take off. How I didn't break it I don't know. I am leaving the magnets on there and going to have a spare bowl for next time.



You can see in this pic how the threads dragged the shavings away from the magnet when I took the bowl off.



Here are a couple of pictures of the "stuff"







My thoughts....
If this much metal was coming off the HPFP the injectors would be done by now and prob the HPFP too. From what I know, once it starts to go it doesn't take long. So it must have come from an external source. I am not worried about it, the filter stops it all.

Just went 0 - 60 in 7.2 seconds this AM so the pump and injectors are working just fine!!

Have fun!
 
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Old May 25, 2012 | 08:38 AM
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You are doing all you can do. Honestly, there is not a hole lot of steel before this point. I think it must be contaminants and the filter is doing it's job. I like the magnets. Good PRO tip.
 
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Old May 25, 2012 | 09:28 AM
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What sucks is that we even have to be concerned by this. Ford has not done a good job making us feel confident in our trucks. I have a buzzing sound that sounds like it's coming from the water separator that did not used to be there. Filters were changed less then a thousand miles ago and were said to be clean.
 
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Old May 25, 2012 | 09:40 AM
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I agree that if the fuel pump cam and rollers are going, it probably doesn't take long for a total failure. That does seem like a lot of metal and if it's coming from the fuel pump, your truck should go belly up by dinner time. The only other explanation is that the metal is coming from and external source which seems more likely to me. I think your filters are doing their jobs. You probably ought to start greasing your bowl threads too to make it easier to remove.
 
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