It's that. Every day I pass by upwards of 10 or more 6.7L equipped SDs and if there were mass premature failures due to local fuel quality you'd see and hear about it... without having to go on an internet forum.

 

OK, here is some good news.........

I just talked to NADP (North American Diesel Performance), they are the ones that tuned my truck. They are pretty in the know up here as fas as diesel performance goes. In a city of about 750,000 people (correct me if I am wrong) they have tuned over 600 of the 11/12 6.7's. I would say that is pretty good exposure to the 'ol 6.7. NADP staff has not heard of a single HPFP failure!! If these pumps are failing in large numbers I think NADP would have heard something.......

Further to this, they phoned a parts guy that they know at a major ford dealer here (who they say sells a ton of 6.7's) and the guy had not heard of a single failure at that dealership.

Soooooo, if NADP has tuned over 600 6.7's, I would venture to guess that there would be thousands of tuned 6.7's up here (a lot of guys do it themselves) and many many more thousands of stock trucks driving around in a city of 750,000. And I can't find a failure.

Maybe it's too early, I don't know.

But what I do want to know is why there is metal in my fuel filter?

Come on Epic, tear in there and get us a video, I'm on the edge of my seat here

 

Here are the magnets I plan on putting on the DFCM this weekend if the honeydo list is not too long. Not sure how yet...

I was thinking maybe spin the DFCM back off and just throw them inside. But then thought the diesel may degrade the paint etc and I got enough stuff in there I don't want already. Thoughts???

 

How can you state as fact that DLC failure "is the prime suspect" when you're not even certain it's being used?

Let's deal in fact. There's plenty enough speculation on this issue.

 

Any chance that the magnets will screws with the WIF sensor? I'd test through the electrical connection on the housing with a test meter just to make sure it doesn't trigger it, or worse- prevent it from triggering. Just a thought

 

So have you decided where you want to add the magnet? Just curious...but sounds logical to add it to the low pressure side. Just wondering if that is the low pressure return side to the tank...or other?


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Got me too, subscribed...

 

Darren32/TRENT310,

I'm with you guys on this one. I'm in Calgary, and recently did a trip to Regina and back as well, the number of 6.7's on the road around here is staggering, they're everywhere. On top of that, I work in the patch too (albeit in an office tower lol), and I haven't heard anything negative about the thousands of 6.7s out there being worked hard, especially not about the HPFP. When the 6.0s hit the ground, and then the issues with the 6.4s "spontaneously combusting" were happening, the word spread like wildfire. That gives me a lot of comfort that the HPFP issue has been blown WAY out of proportion on this board.

That said, I will take precautions with mine, and I hope you guys have good luck with yours as well.

P.S. Darren32, nice to read about you not being willing to sell someone a truck that you think might possibly grenade or have issues, I'm glad there's still a few honest stand-up guys out there.

 

Actually...this is a GREAT way to isolate...to being a fuel issue. It could be little or NO issue up in Canada due to different diesel fuel specs. Here in the US...with the few issues known...could be due to fuel specs here.


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Hey Darren. Keep your shorts on!

Actually, I'm kind of excited to see what's in there too but unless there are aluminum shavings, it will just be more information to throw in the bucket. It's just like you said, there just simply is no data showing any level of class failure that is remotely remarkable. That's what this effort is all about, trying to quantify the actual numbers so we can cut through the hysteria.

We are on the very front edge of a multi-year effort. Hope everyone is keeping that in mind.

I am sincerely interested in the magnet in the bottom of the DFCM idea. It will pickup most of of the particles before they enter the filter pleats and disappear. You could inspect the magnet every month and collect what's on there. What harm could it do?

 

I may have missed it while reading through this post but do all 6.7's have the CP4 pump or did they start off with the CP3 then switch? If they switched how do you find out which one you have?

 

Take a recessed bolt and attach the magnet to a

Unfortunately the magnet will not make complete contact around a circular object but this should keep enough contact to attract metal debris.

 

Yes, all 6.7's have the CP4.x pumps.

 

Okey dokey folks,

Below are a couple of pics of where I added the magnets.
Also figured out why my DFCM has oil on it, transfer case output shaft to the front end is leaking (last pic).


Epic's and Kepr's filters were clean which is good news!
What am I going to do? Nothing.
I will check it again when I do my next oil change in 10,000 kM.

I see 2 options:

1. The contamination is from an external source. Bad fuel, someone who doesn't like me put something in my tank, WHO KNOWS. If this is the case I am not worried about it. The DFCM catches it all.

2. The contamination is from the HPFP. If this is the case I will continue to drive it and monitor it and report back in 10,000 kM. Maybe we will learn something.

NOW, this is the second time that I have went nutz over all this HPFP crazyness. Maybe I am spending too much time here, maybe I am to easily distracted, maybe I believe everything I read. I am not sure. But (again) I am going back to driving my truck and loving every minute of it. Time will tell and whatever it does tell us is fine with me.

I have a great life, beautifull wife, 2 great kids and way more important things to worry about. It is after all just a truck!

Can someone please do some mods, put nitrous, propane, twin turbo's, a 8" stack thru the hood, dingle ***** or a bumper sticker on their truck so we have something else to talk about?

I will continue to look at any NEW information but I have nothing further to add on the HPFP issue.

Thanks

 

Drive fast and often, Darren...we're waiting with baited breath!