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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by rickatic
I have the filters from my truck...I have not cracked the egg on the secondary...yet...I will open it up later and take a look. To be honest, I do not believe there will be any metal...there was no water in the fuel I dumped out of it...how big a hammer do I need...
I too don't thnik you will find any metal in the secondary.

You need a hammer NOT as big as kper used
Couple of taps with a 3 lb mini sledge hammer on the seam worked for me, no damage to the filter
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 10:26 AM
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Hi Darren, you mentioned that the filter was unusually difficult to remove. I wonder if something happened the last time the filter was installed and the filings are a result of that. Just a thought.

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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 10:27 AM
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Wow, and Darren, aren't you are in Canada? Isnt that where the "good fuel" is? Also, despite all your mods, I would think that you should pursue "preventative" replacement, before the pump fully fails? Or since there are shavings, is it already too late?
dj, I understand what you're saying but I think it's premature to make that recommendation. If we make that jump now, it will be difficult to continue our data gathering effort. Let's not anyone say that Darren's fuel pump is failing. Pretty please? We don't know enough yet to make that conclusion. I would personally like to keep this thread clinical.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rob17
Hi Darren, you mentioned that the filter was unusually difficult to remove. I wonder if something happened the last time the filter was installed and the filings are a result of that. Just a thought.

Rob
It was hard to remove because of the metal filings in the threads. I changed the filters myself last time so there should be no issue. It was definately sealed up properly, nothing got in there from the outside.

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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by EpicCowlick
dj, I understand what you're saying but I think it's premature to make that recommendation. If we make that jump now, it will be difficult to continue our data gathering effort. Let's not anyone say that Darren's fuel pump is failing. Pretty please? We don't know enough yet to make that conclusion. I would personally like to keep this thread clinical.

I secong the pretty please!!!!!!

I also would like to keep it clinical (and open)
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by darren32
It was hard to remove because of the metal filings in the threads. I changed the filters myself last time so there should be no issue. It was definately sealed up properly, nothing got in there from the outside.

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When someone else commented about "outside", I was thinking they meant from when you fueled it came from the station not your engine. Staying optimistic.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 10:37 AM
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Subscribing. Very interested in outcome. Good luck Darren. I would think your mods should not have effected the HPF in any way. I have 23,000 miles on my 6.7 and don't remember any metal particles when I changed my filter 2000 miles ago.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 11:10 AM
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I need to look again to see if I kept my first DFCM filter...didn't see it in the box last night though.

Darren, I will make sure I have 13 quarts of oil in there.
Rick, a small hammer for better precision is best.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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Hoping this is a non issue for you Darren.

Seeing your filter, I think I'll start changing mine and cut it open at every oil change.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by EpicCowlick
dj, I understand what you're saying but I think it's premature to make that recommendation. If we make that jump now, it will be difficult to continue our data gathering effort. Let's not anyone say that Darren's fuel pump is failing. Pretty please? We don't know enough yet to make that conclusion. I would personally like to keep this thread clinical.
Well, I tend to agree, but metal shavings? Where else could they be from?

On edit: Let's keep things to the point. Removed all other conjecture.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by darren32
Our old friend Marauder92V just gave me a good suggestion and I think I will give it a try. He suggest putting a rare earth magnet on the outside of the filter housings to trap any metal that passes through there. I think it's a good idea, if you can trap the metal in one location you will have a better idea of how much of it there is.

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I agree with this approach too. I would drive it for a couple/few weeks, and then pull the filter/housing and inspect. Based on that, I'd probably go see the dealer.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:15 PM
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Just noticed this in Darrens sig:

2011 SD F350 4x4 Crew Cab 6.7l White Platnum Metalic, Adobe Leather, NAV, FX4, Job1
Access Cover, Ford Bed Mat, B&W Turnover with Companion, Transfer Flow 50 gal midship tank, Carli Suspension with King 2.5" shocks, Bilstein 7100 stabilizer, 325/60R20 Goodyear Duratrac's on 20x10's, AMP Power Steps, Bushwacker flares painted to match, H&S Black Maxx with EGR/DOC/DPF/Urea delete, aFe S2, RED light bar with 4 8" SS KC's.

Just checked Transfer flows website, and it states that the tanks are: "Made from 12 or 14-gauge aluminized steel"

I'd like to think that this is where the shavings may have come from.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by cford716
When someone else commented about "outside", I was thinking they meant from when you fueled it came from the station not your engine. Staying optimistic.
Did the fuel station recently get a load of fuel? (Debris from the distributor/delivery truck). Did they recently do remodeling? (cutting threads in galvanized fuel pipes).
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by djousma
Just noticed this in Darrens sig:

2011 SD F350 4x4 Crew Cab 6.7l White Platnum Metalic, Adobe Leather, NAV, FX4, Job1
Access Cover, Ford Bed Mat, B&W Turnover with Companion, Transfer Flow 50 gal midship tank, Carli Suspension with King 2.5" shocks, Bilstein 7100 stabilizer, 325/60R20 Goodyear Duratrac's on 20x10's, AMP Power Steps, Bushwacker flares painted to match, H&S Black Maxx with EGR/DOC/DPF/Urea delete, aFe S2, RED light bar with 4 8" SS KC's.

Just checked Transfer flows website, and it states that the tanks are made of "Made from 12 or 14-gauge aluminized steel"

I'd like to think that this is where the shavings may have come from.
Can you please explain to me HOW these metal shavings could possibly come from a fuel tank? Keep in mind this is his second fuel filter. This statement would mean that the tank is basically falling apart.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:25 PM
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Darren I was looking around for some rare earth magnets and came across this website that has all sets of them...these are rubber coated and I would probably use the long style to have more area covered across the filter casing.


K&J Magnetics - Products

Neodymium magnets

I was trying to find some that would have like a rubber strap or casing but have not found one. I guess it would be easy to just use some duct tape or a few hose clamps might be even better.
 
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