No Start last night
I'm replacing the engine in my son in laws '06 Dodge, and I can see why folks rave about the Cummins. Everything is just so simple and easy to get at...
I tried commanding ithe IPR open and closed and at different percentages, and it never made any difference in the air coming out, is that normal? I changed the screen on it a year ago when I did the STC fitting and am fanatical about oil changes etc, I wonder if it's ok?
I tried commanding ithe IPR open and closed and at different percentages, and it never made any difference in the air coming out, is that normal? I changed the screen on it a year ago when I did the STC fitting and am fanatical about oil changes etc, I wonder if it's ok?
I went to town and got a new standpipe today...the dealer had 3 when I phoned yesterday morning and was out today. He said the tech was doing a 6.0 and had them all. I told him the tech didn't need 3 of them, go talk him out of one. He did, and gave it to me for free! That was great, the $422 price on the 2 new injectors (a piece) wasn't.
Put them in, and hooked up the ficm and did a buzz test, and they clicked merrily away at room temp, the old ones wouldn't. Caps lock is going on...
BUY FORD INJECTORS, THE 1500 BUCKS I SAVED ON THE CHEAPO'S WASN'T WORTH IT!!!
Now for the bad news...the o-rings on the other stand pipe were eroded badly, and were ready to blow too - I have NO idea why! I paid a hundred bucks for that stupid little kit, and they never made it 6000 miles wtf is with that?? Now I have to wait till Monday to order another standpipe, guess I get to go out and work on the Dodge tonight.
Many thanks to all who have helped out, I'm going to rep you all, and I'm also going to post a few pics of things I made to do this job, we have the best info on the web here, but not many pics. I'll update when I get it back together.
Here are some pics of the IPR socket I built.

Rough cut on mondo socket. I probably spent 2hrs getting this thing to work..


Notice I almost daylighted the thing to get it to fit between the hpop cover and the IPR valve. Would have been nice if they cast it a half inch higher and put the electrical connection straight out so an ordinary box end wrench would work on it.

Sorry about the lousy pics, I have a cheap phone and lousy lighting in my shop.
Got the old IPR out...screen was still good, didn't need to change it...but now I have a spare, and a socket to change it - I no longer fear the IPR!!!
Here's some pics I took while doing the air check. Most will find them boring, but maybe it'll help somebody who has a hard start/long crank time issue.
The reason it took so long is photobucket rejected my browser. I had to get google chrome to get the site to upload pics.

Putting air to the ICP port

Homemade air thingy. The adapter that screws into the port has 12mm threads that I got from a hydraulic shop.
Blown standpipe o-ring that caused an 8000lb, $60,000 truck to become a boat anchor
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Glad you got it sorted out John. Are you back running yet?
Put the new standpipe in, hit it with air, and had an air leak. Took it back out to bench test it, clamped vacumn nipple plugs over the injector "nozzles", and noticed they would rotate - they're in a socket, and that's where the air was leaking. Put it back together since it wasn't leaking before, hoping the high pressure oil would seal it. It took a couple of high speed blasts to get it seated so the truck would start normally, but it's good now.
And the injector problems are solved, I can't believe the difference in the way it sounds when I fire it up, just a smooth purr compared to the rattling, smoking, missing POS it was before.
I don't like slamming companies on the net, but I would not recommend buying from Bostech. 2 of their injectors were faulty, wouldn't even click on a buzz test at room temp, number 4 wouldn't click until 110 degrees, number 7 wouldn't click until 150 degrees, the engine missed until it was almost at operating temperature - they were obviously suffering from stiction. And to get warranty on them, you have to take them out, send them back, they test them and decide if you get a warranty, and then ship the replacements back. I was looking at close to a month of downtime, so I just traded the 2 faulty injectors in at my Ford dealer.
I don't know how they are tested, it must be with 200 degree oil and 120 volts, there's no way these things would have passed the testing they claim to do - they never worked from the time I put them in.
Interesting observation about the oil rails. I'll be checking mine out in the near future.











