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heres a good read on the HPOP BB
HPO BB 03-04 pump
No Base oil Pressure - Page 4 - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
HPO BB 03-04 pump
No Base oil Pressure - Page 4 - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
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henderson15@msn.com and if i get a scan gauge what will i be lookin for when i hook it up?
You will have to program it first with the "x-gauge" commands in the previous post to get it to read the parameters u need.
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these are for HPO concerns
IPR %IPR Duty Cycle TXD: 07E0221434 RXF: 046285140634 RXD: 3008 MTH: 0DCA03E8000A NAM: IPR %
this one is for the oil/egr coolers
EOT Engine Oil Temp. TXD: 07E0221310 RXF: 046245130610 RXD: 3010 MTH: 00090005F05F ( UNAM: EOT
fWT is already programmed on SG Known on here as ECT=engine coolant temp
ICP
Inj. Control Press. TXD: 07E0221446 RXF: 046205140646 RXD: 3010 MTH: 003900640000 NAM: ICP
IPR %IPR Duty Cycle TXD: 07E0221434 RXF: 046285140634 RXD: 3008 MTH: 0DCA03E8000A NAM: IPR %
this one is for the oil/egr coolers
EOT Engine Oil Temp. TXD: 07E0221310 RXF: 046245130610 RXD: 3010 MTH: 00090005F05F ( UNAM: EOT
fWT is already programmed on SG Known on here as ECT=engine coolant temp
5. Road Test For Restricted Oil Cooler – Setup and Observations:
a. Install integrated diagnostic system (IDS) select engine coolant
temperature (ECT) and engine oil temperature (EOT) PID’s on IDS
Datalogger
b. Carefully drive the vehicle at wide open throttle (WOT) / high load to
achieve maximum boost.
a. Install integrated diagnostic system (IDS) select engine coolant
temperature (ECT) and engine oil temperature (EOT) PID’s on IDS
Datalogger
b. Carefully drive the vehicle at wide open throttle (WOT) / high load to
achieve maximum boost.
NOTE
FOR ACCURATE TEST RESULTS, ECT TEMPERATURE MUST BE GREATER
THAN 190° F (88 °C) WHEN MEASURING THE ECT AND EOT MAXIMUM
TEMPERATURE DIFFERENTIAL
THAN 190° F (88 °C) WHEN MEASURING THE ECT AND EOT MAXIMUM
TEMPERATURE DIFFERENTIAL
NOTE
PERFORMING THIS TEST STEP OUT OF SEQUENCE CAN RESULT IN
INACCRUATE TEST RESULTS. THIS CAN BE CAUSED BY A LEAKING EGR
COOLER ALLOWING (HOT) COMBUSTION GASES TO ENTER THE ENGINE
COOLANT AND ARTIFICALLY RAISING THE ECT READINGS.
c. Observe ECT and EOT PID’s on IDS Datalogger. EOT maximum
temperature differential might occur at throttle tip-out.
(1) If EOT is within 15° F (8.4° C) degrees of the ect, go to Step 7.
(2) If EOT exceeds ECT by 15° F (8.4° C) or more at any time
during the test, go to Step 6
INACCRUATE TEST RESULTS. THIS CAN BE CAUSED BY A LEAKING EGR
COOLER ALLOWING (HOT) COMBUSTION GASES TO ENTER THE ENGINE
COOLANT AND ARTIFICALLY RAISING THE ECT READINGS.
c. Observe ECT and EOT PID’s on IDS Datalogger. EOT maximum
temperature differential might occur at throttle tip-out.
(1) If EOT is within 15° F (8.4° C) degrees of the ect, go to Step 7.
(2) If EOT exceeds ECT by 15° F (8.4° C) or more at any time
during the test, go to Step 6
Step 6
is to replace the oil cooler
Step 7
is to test head gaskets.
Without any additional TSB’s specifically for clogging oil coolers, the above statement
has been adopted by the community as the benchmark to determine a clogged or clogging
oil cooler. For the lack of a more in depth test process we will assume that a delta of less
than 15° Fahrenheit your oil cooler is operating within specifications. If it is above 15°
Fahrenheit oil cooler maintenance is required, which may include replacement of the oil
cooler core.has been adopted by the community as the benchmark to determine a clogged or clogging
oil cooler. For the lack of a more in depth test process we will assume that a delta of less
than 15° Fahrenheit your oil cooler is operating within specifications. If it is above 15°
Fahrenheit oil cooler maintenance is required, which may include replacement of the oil
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well, without hard facts this would be impossible to help him fix, he needs to list if there are any codes, but without a ford specific reader that is next to impossible, he should buy the scanguage2 and program it for the xguages, my thoughts were boost related. but there are way to many possiblities without more facts. IIRC the 2003 didn't come with a boost guage on the dash which are highly accurate, the boost guage in the scanguage in stock form is useless. mine reads negative numbers and isn't correct, before you throw 2500+ of parts at it i would confirm thier findings, and if you were going to spend that money i would go and buy bulletproofs setup to eliminate the oil cooler from ever failing again. so i would tell him go here and school himself on the videos and read before having the dealership replace failed oem with oem BulletProof Engine Oil Systems
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In his first post he said the mechanic said he only had 700psi ICP when they put the pedal to the metal
all that other stuff would be great I dont think he knows codes or anything
I am guessing not to much smoke since ICP low
maybe a run by the autopart store for codes may help
all that other stuff would be great I dont think he knows codes or anything
I am guessing not to much smoke since ICP low
maybe a run by the autopart store for codes may help
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In his first post he said the mechanic said he only had 700psi ICP when they put the pedal to the metal
all that other stuff would be great I dont think he knows codes or anything
I am guessing not to much smoke since ICP low
maybe a run by the autopart store for codes may help
all that other stuff would be great I dont think he knows codes or anything
I am guessing not to much smoke since ICP low
maybe a run by the autopart store for codes may help
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x1^^^^ Agree.
Here is a partial list of Xgauges with Ford's values.
KO=KEY ON LI=LOW IDLE HI=HIGH IDLE OR=OPERATING RANGE
FICM Vehicle Power (Volts) (Should be 12 Volts, should not drop below 10.25 for more than 60 seconds, or 9.0 for 4 seconds. TSB 09-24-03)
TXD: 07E02209CE
RXF: 0462450906CE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006401000000
NAM: FVP
KO=12.0 LI=14.0 HI=14.0 OR=10.5-15.5
FICM Logic Power (Volts) (Should be 12 volts)
TXD: 07E02209CF
RXF: 0462450906CF
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006401000000
NAM: FLP
KO=12.0 LI=13.5 HI=13.5 OR=10.5-15.5
FICM Main Power (Volts) (Should be 47-48) Your FMP should never dip below 45. If it does, your FICM is toast and needs repaired or replaced. Check when cold
TXD: 07E02209D0
RXF: 0462450906D0
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006401000000
NAM: FMP
KO=47 LI=47.5 HI=47.5 OR=40-52 (yes, that is what it says from Ford)
VGT Duty Cycle (%)
TXD: 07E022096D
RXF: 04620509066D
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00647FFF0000
NAM: VGT
KO=0 LI=73 HI=43 OR=0-100 %
Engine Oil Temp
TXD: 07E0221310
RXF: 046245130610
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00090005F05F (00090005FFD8 alternate MTH found)
NAM: EOT
Engine hot KO=190 LI=190 HI=190 OR= -40 - 302 *F
Trans. Fluid Temp
TXD: 07E1221674
RXF: 046205160674
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100080000
NAM: TFT
Inj. Control Press. (ICP / HPOP)
TXD: 07E0221446
RXF: 046205140646
RXD: 3010
MTH: 003900640000
NAM: ICP
KO=0 LI=625.5 HI=1400-1450 OR=0-4045
ICP Voltage (Volts)
TXD: 07E02216AD
RXF: 0462451606AD
RXD: 3010
MTH: 004827100000
NAM: ICV
KO=0.2 LI=1.0 HI=1.8 OR=.15-4.7 Volts
IPR Duty Cycle
TXD: 07E0221434
RXF: 046285140634
RXD: 3008
MTH: 0DCA03E8000A
NAM: IPR %
KO=14.84 LI=24 HI=40.60 OR=0-50 %
EGR Duty Cycle (Percent)
TXD: 07E022166E
RXF: 04620516066E
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006440000000
NAM: EGR
KO=0 LI=0-15 HI=32 OR=0-44 %
EGR Valve Position (mm)
TXD: 07E022096A
RXF: 04620509066A
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: EVP
Note: EGR Valve Position in hundredths of a millimeter, where 0 mm indicates a closed EGR valve position.
EGR Valve Position Measured (%)
TXD: 07E02209FE
RXF: 0462050906FE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00647FFF0000
NAM: EVM
Note: MEASURED EGR Valve Position, in %, where a low value indicates a closed EGR valve (0 EGR flow), and a high value indicates an open EGR valve.
KO=0 LI=0 HI=9.72 OR=0 - 14 PERCENT
EGR Valve Position (Volts 0-5)
TXD: 07E022167E
RXF: 04620516067E
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000133330000
NAM: EGV
KO=0.8 LI=0.8 -1.0 HI=1.3 OR=0.6 - 3.5 VOLT
Camshaft & Crankshaft Sync (1 = in sync, 0 = not in sync)
TXD: 07E02209CD
RXF: 0462050906CD
RXD: 3000 (3001 alternate)
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: SYC
KO=0 LI=1 HI=1 OR 0-1 (NO/YES)
Intake Air Temperature 2 (Fahrenheit)
TXD: 07E02216A8
RXF: 0462051606A8
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: IA2
Engine HOT KO=113 LI=113 HI=113 OR= -40-250 *F
Barometric Pressure
TXD: 07E0221127
RXF: 046285110627
RXD: 3008
MTH: 003100500000
NAM: BMP
Here is another BAR if the above one is not working for you. The one below works for me.
Barometric Pressure (PSI)
TXD: 07E0221442
RXF: 046285140642
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001D00500000
NAM: BAR
KO=96.5 (14) LI=96.5 (14) HI=96.5 (14) OR=50 - 120 (7.3 - 17.4) kPa (PSI)
Exhaust Back Pressure
TXD: 07E0221445
RXF: 046285140645
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001D00500000
NAM: EBP
KO=103 (15) LI=110 (16) HI=110 (16) OR=55 - 607 (8 -88) kPA (PSI)
Mass Fuel Desired (Milligrams Per Stroke)
TXD: 07E0221412
RXF: 046205140612
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100100000
NAM: MFD
KO=0 LI=7.5 HI=10.7 OR=0-100
Fan Speed Sensor (RPM)
TXD: 07E022099F
RXF: 04620509069F
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100040000
NAM: FSS
KO=0 LI=533 HI=488 OR=0-4000
Injector Timing Before Top Dead Center (Degrees)
TXD: 07E02209CC
RXF: 0462850906CC
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000A00400000
NAM: ITM
KO=0 LI=-8.71 HI=+3.5 OR-50 - 50 ANGLE (Degrees) Injector Timing (TDC)
( not sure about the above)
Accelerator Pedal Position (%)
TXD: 07E02209D4
RXF: 0462050906D4
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100020000
NAM: AP%
Key On=0 LI=0 HI=13 Op range=0-17.75 (mine reads up to 99%, not sure why)
DTC Count (Diagnostic Trouble Code Count)
TXD: 07E0220200
RXF: 046205020600
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: DTC
Counts trouble code cycles
KO=0 LI=0 HI=0 OR=0 - 255
VREF (Calibration Voltage Input)
TXD: 07E0221155
RXF: 046245110655
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006433330000
NAM: CVI
KO=4.9 LI=4.9 HI=4.9 OR=4.5 - 5.5 VOLTS Reference Voltage
Here is a partial list of Xgauges with Ford's values.
KO=KEY ON LI=LOW IDLE HI=HIGH IDLE OR=OPERATING RANGE
FICM Vehicle Power (Volts) (Should be 12 Volts, should not drop below 10.25 for more than 60 seconds, or 9.0 for 4 seconds. TSB 09-24-03)
TXD: 07E02209CE
RXF: 0462450906CE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006401000000
NAM: FVP
KO=12.0 LI=14.0 HI=14.0 OR=10.5-15.5
FICM Logic Power (Volts) (Should be 12 volts)
TXD: 07E02209CF
RXF: 0462450906CF
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006401000000
NAM: FLP
KO=12.0 LI=13.5 HI=13.5 OR=10.5-15.5
FICM Main Power (Volts) (Should be 47-48) Your FMP should never dip below 45. If it does, your FICM is toast and needs repaired or replaced. Check when cold
TXD: 07E02209D0
RXF: 0462450906D0
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006401000000
NAM: FMP
KO=47 LI=47.5 HI=47.5 OR=40-52 (yes, that is what it says from Ford)
VGT Duty Cycle (%)
TXD: 07E022096D
RXF: 04620509066D
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00647FFF0000
NAM: VGT
KO=0 LI=73 HI=43 OR=0-100 %
Engine Oil Temp
TXD: 07E0221310
RXF: 046245130610
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00090005F05F (00090005FFD8 alternate MTH found)
NAM: EOT
Engine hot KO=190 LI=190 HI=190 OR= -40 - 302 *F
Trans. Fluid Temp
TXD: 07E1221674
RXF: 046205160674
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100080000
NAM: TFT
Inj. Control Press. (ICP / HPOP)
TXD: 07E0221446
RXF: 046205140646
RXD: 3010
MTH: 003900640000
NAM: ICP
KO=0 LI=625.5 HI=1400-1450 OR=0-4045
ICP Voltage (Volts)
TXD: 07E02216AD
RXF: 0462451606AD
RXD: 3010
MTH: 004827100000
NAM: ICV
KO=0.2 LI=1.0 HI=1.8 OR=.15-4.7 Volts
IPR Duty Cycle
TXD: 07E0221434
RXF: 046285140634
RXD: 3008
MTH: 0DCA03E8000A
NAM: IPR %
KO=14.84 LI=24 HI=40.60 OR=0-50 %
EGR Duty Cycle (Percent)
TXD: 07E022166E
RXF: 04620516066E
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006440000000
NAM: EGR
KO=0 LI=0-15 HI=32 OR=0-44 %
EGR Valve Position (mm)
TXD: 07E022096A
RXF: 04620509066A
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: EVP
Note: EGR Valve Position in hundredths of a millimeter, where 0 mm indicates a closed EGR valve position.
EGR Valve Position Measured (%)
TXD: 07E02209FE
RXF: 0462050906FE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00647FFF0000
NAM: EVM
Note: MEASURED EGR Valve Position, in %, where a low value indicates a closed EGR valve (0 EGR flow), and a high value indicates an open EGR valve.
KO=0 LI=0 HI=9.72 OR=0 - 14 PERCENT
EGR Valve Position (Volts 0-5)
TXD: 07E022167E
RXF: 04620516067E
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000133330000
NAM: EGV
KO=0.8 LI=0.8 -1.0 HI=1.3 OR=0.6 - 3.5 VOLT
Camshaft & Crankshaft Sync (1 = in sync, 0 = not in sync)
TXD: 07E02209CD
RXF: 0462050906CD
RXD: 3000 (3001 alternate)
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: SYC
KO=0 LI=1 HI=1 OR 0-1 (NO/YES)
Intake Air Temperature 2 (Fahrenheit)
TXD: 07E02216A8
RXF: 0462051606A8
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: IA2
Engine HOT KO=113 LI=113 HI=113 OR= -40-250 *F
Barometric Pressure
TXD: 07E0221127
RXF: 046285110627
RXD: 3008
MTH: 003100500000
NAM: BMP
Here is another BAR if the above one is not working for you. The one below works for me.
Barometric Pressure (PSI)
TXD: 07E0221442
RXF: 046285140642
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001D00500000
NAM: BAR
KO=96.5 (14) LI=96.5 (14) HI=96.5 (14) OR=50 - 120 (7.3 - 17.4) kPa (PSI)
Exhaust Back Pressure
TXD: 07E0221445
RXF: 046285140645
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001D00500000
NAM: EBP
KO=103 (15) LI=110 (16) HI=110 (16) OR=55 - 607 (8 -88) kPA (PSI)
Mass Fuel Desired (Milligrams Per Stroke)
TXD: 07E0221412
RXF: 046205140612
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100100000
NAM: MFD
KO=0 LI=7.5 HI=10.7 OR=0-100
Fan Speed Sensor (RPM)
TXD: 07E022099F
RXF: 04620509069F
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100040000
NAM: FSS
KO=0 LI=533 HI=488 OR=0-4000
Injector Timing Before Top Dead Center (Degrees)
TXD: 07E02209CC
RXF: 0462850906CC
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000A00400000
NAM: ITM
KO=0 LI=-8.71 HI=+3.5 OR-50 - 50 ANGLE (Degrees) Injector Timing (TDC)
( not sure about the above)
Accelerator Pedal Position (%)
TXD: 07E02209D4
RXF: 0462050906D4
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100020000
NAM: AP%
Key On=0 LI=0 HI=13 Op range=0-17.75 (mine reads up to 99%, not sure why)
DTC Count (Diagnostic Trouble Code Count)
TXD: 07E0220200
RXF: 046205020600
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: DTC
Counts trouble code cycles
KO=0 LI=0 HI=0 OR=0 - 255
VREF (Calibration Voltage Input)
TXD: 07E0221155
RXF: 046245110655
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006433330000
NAM: CVI
KO=4.9 LI=4.9 HI=4.9 OR=4.5 - 5.5 VOLTS Reference Voltage
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Then for your SGII:
All 3 FICMs
Both ICPs
IPR
VGT
ECT
EOT
DTC
VREF
Not sure where your truck stands as far as getting out to heat up to check ECT Vs. EOT. (By the way, ECT on the Scangauge II is f*wt already in there.)
And readings from the rest. ICP and ICP volts while cranking and Idling. IPR% the same.
All FICM readings.
Check against the Ford suggested values in the list above.
DTC will count from 0-? If this starts counting, you have a code.
As you have read, Codes are a big thing.
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