I've had my 6.0 for about 2 months but just now oreder my sgii. Just got back from hunting for the weekend and when i got back my SG II was on the door step. Pluged it in and put in a few xgauges. truck was warm from a 2 hr. drive when i turned it on and after about a 15 min trip at 65 i had a eot of 192 and ect of 184, do yall think this is ok or should i start to looking into flushing? also ficm looked good, never droped below 48.5 during start up.

 

Those deltas look good, I usually have deltas between 6 to 18, at times I feel like I need to get a flush since I bought my truck used and don't know the full details on whats been done. Looking at the TSP usually unloaded at 65 mph for about 25 minutes you shouldn't see delta higher than 15. Your FICM looks good as well, mine stays at 48 which is a good sign

 

IDK for shure but either thermistate little cool or no quite to temp watch it

But if it was up to temp spread looks good

ICP and IPR% are also good ones to have

fun little toy

 

I will check it in the morning after it sits and see if there is any spread while cold. what do the ICP and the IPR% do?

 

ICP & IPR% are used to monitor your HPO=high press oil

Important stuff

 

what value's would be considered in range or good for the two of those and at what would be considered "bad". sorry, new to diesels and still learning. also the truck has 83,000 miles on it and had 77000 when i got it so just trying to avoid any fatal mistakes while i can.

 

heres all the values


Acronym Key On Low Idle High Idle Operating Range Measurement Units Description
ACCS OFF OFF OFF OFF/ON OFF/ON AC Cycle Switch
ACP OPEN OPEN OPEN OPEN/ CLOSED OPEN/ CLOSED AC Pressure Switch
APP 0 0 13 0 - 17.75 PERCENT Accelerator Pedal Position
APP1 4.0 4.0 3.4 0.7 - 4.2 VOLT Accelerator Pedal Track 1
APP2 1.4 1.4 1.9 1.4 - 4.1 VOLT Accelerator Pedal Track 2
APP3 0.9 0.9 1.4 0.8 - 3.5 VOLT Accelerator Pedal Track 3
APP_MODE CT CT PT CT, PT, WOT CT, PT, WOT Accelerator Pedal Position
AST 00:00 00:07 01:00 - min : sec Time Since Start
B+ 12.6 13.3 14.0 10.5 - 15.5 VOLT Battery Voltage
BARO 96.5 (14) 96.5 (14) 96.5 (14) 50 - 120 (7.3 - 17.4) kPa (PSI) Barometric Pressure
BOO OFF OFF OFF ON/OFF ON/OFF Brake Pedal
BPA OFF OFF OFF ON/OFF ON/OFF Brake Pressure Applied
CLRDIST 926.1 926.1 926.1 - Miles Distance Since DTCs Cleared
CLRWRMUP 2 2 2 - Numeric Value Number of Warmups Since DTCs Cleared
CMPFM NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT CMP Status
CPP/PNP NEUTRAL NEUTRAL NEUTRAL NEUTRAL DRIVE/ NEUTRAL Clutch Pedal Position
DECHOKE No No No - Yes/No Dechoke Mode
DRIVECNT 6 7 7 0 - 65535 NUMBER Valid Drive Counter
DTCCNT 0 0 0 0 - 255 NUMBER DTC Count
ECT 88 (190) 88 (190) 88 (190) -40 - 121 (-40 - 250) TEMPERA- TURE °C (°F) Coolant Temperature
ECT_FM NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT ECT Fault
EGR EVAL NO NO NO YES NO/YES EGR Evaluated
EGR DC# 0 0 - 15 32 0 - 44 PERCENT EGR Duty Cycle
EGR_F NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT 0 - 44 FAULT/NO FAULT EGR Status
EGRVP 0.8 0.8 - 1.0 1.3 0.6 - 3.5 VOLT EGR Valve Position
EGRVPDES 0 0 9.72 0 - 14 PERCENT EGR Desired
EOT 88 (190) 88 (190) 88 (190) -40 - 150 (-40 - 302) TEMPERA- TURE °C (°F) Oil Temperature
EOTFM NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT EOT Status
EP 103 (15) 110 (16) 110 (16) 55 - 607 (8 - 88) kPa (PSI) Exhaust Pressure
EP_V 0.8 1.2 1.3 0.4 - 4.7 VOLT Exhaust Pressure
EP DSD 3.26 2.43 2.13 PSI Exhaust Pressure Desired
FANSS 0 533 488 0 - 4000 RPM Fan Speed
FANSSM LOW LOW LOW LOW LOW/HIGH Cooling Fan Driver
FAN VAR # 0 0 0 0 - 100 Percent Fan Speed Monitor
FAN VAR_F NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT Fan Speed Monitor
FICMSYNC NO YES YES YES YES/NO Synchronization from FICM
FICM_LPWR 12.0 13.5 13.5 10.5 - 15.5 VOLTS FICM Logic Power FICM logic power from the FICM relay.
FICM_MPWR 47 47.5 47.5 40 - 52 VOLTS FICM Main Power FICM injector power supply from the FICM relay.
FICM_VPWR 12.0 14.0 14.0 10.5 - 15.5 VOLTS FICM Vehicle Power FICM vehicle power from the ignition switch.
FLI 36.1 36.1 34.1 0 - 100 PERCENT Fuel Level Indicator
FP# ON/OFF ON ON ON ON/OFF Fuel Pump
FPM ON/OFF ON ON ON ON/OFF Fuel Pump Monitor
FUELPW 0 990 680 0 - 50000 (μ seconds) Fuel Pulse Width
GENB_F NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT Generator 2 Output Fault
GENFIL OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF/ON Generator Fault Indicator
GEN_F NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT Generator 1 Output Fault
GPCTM 0 0 0 0 - 180 TIME (seconds) Glow Plug Coil On Time
GPL ON/OFF OFF OFF ON/OFF ON/OFF Glow Plug Indicator
GPLTM 0 0 0 1 - 10 TIME (seconds) Glow Plug Indicator On Time
IAT 98.6 98.6 96.8 -40 - 250 TEMPERA- TURE (°F) Intake Air Temp (MAF Assembly)
IAT2 113 113 113 -40 - 250 TEMPERA- TURE °F Intake Air Temp (Manifold Air)
IATFM NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT IAT Status
ICP 0.2 1.0 1.8 0.15 - 4.7 VOLT Injection Control Pressure
ICP_DES 0 625.5 1400 - 1450 0 - 4045 PRESSURE (PSI) ICP Desired
INJ1_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ2_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ3_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ4_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ5_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ6_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ7_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ8_OFF # NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL DISABLE/ NORMAL Injector Disabled
INJ_TIM 0 -8.71 +3.5 -50 - 50 ANGLE (Degrees) Injector Timing (TDC)
IPR # 14.84 24 40.60 0 - 50 PERCENT Injection Pressure Regulator
LOAD 0 12.5 14 0 - 100 PERCENT Calculated Load Value
MAF 0 1.44 2.65 0.5 - 4.75 VOLT Mass Air Flow
MAF_FM NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT NO FAULT/ YES FAULT Mass Air Flow Status
MAP 96 (14) 96 (14) 103 (15) 41 - 324 (6 - 47) kPa (PSI) Manifold Absolute Pressure
MAP_V 1.30 1.33 1.40 0.5 - 4.5 VOLT Manifold Absolute Pressure
MFDES 0 7.5 10.7 0 - 100 MASS mg/stroke Mass Fuel Desired
MGP 0 0.25 0.8 -10 - 30 PRESSURE (psi) Manifold Gauge Pressure
MIL OFF OFF OFF OFF ON/OFF Malfunction Indicator
MIL_DIS 926.1 926.1 926.1 - Miles Distance Since MIL Activated
MISF_EVAL NO NO YES YES NO/YES Misfire Monitor
MP_LRN YES YES YES YES NO/YES Learned Misfire Correction
NM 0 0 0 0 - 65535 NUMBER Number of Misfires
PATSENABL ENABLED ENABLED ENABLED ENABLED ENABLED/ DISABLED Passive Anti-Theft
PBA OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF/ON Park Brake Applied
PNP Neutral Neutral Neutral Park/Neutral Park/Neutral Park/Neutral Position Switch
RPM 0 628 2500 0 - 4096 RPM Revolutions Per Minute
RPMSD 625 625 625 625 RPM Desired Idle RPM
SCCS NONE NONE NONE OFF/ON/ RESUME/ CANCEL/ NONE/SET/ COAST/ NOT AVAILABLE OFF/ON/ RESUME/ CANCEL/ NONE/SET/ COAST/ NOT AVAILABLE Speed Control Switches
STRT_RLY DISABLED DISABLED DISABLED DISABLED DISABLED/ ENABLED Starter Relay
SYNC NO YES YES YES NO/YES CMP and CKP Synchronized
TORQUE 0 9 - 20 50 400 Nm Net Engine Torque
TRIP NO NO NO YES N0/YES OBD Trip Completed
TRIP CNT 0 0 0 0 0 - 255 Trip Count
VFDES 0 9 14 0 - 250 VOLUME mm^3 Volume Fuel Desired
VGTDC # 0 73 43 0 - 100 PERCENT Turbo Duty Cycle
VGT_F NO NO NO NO NO/YES Turbo Fault
VREF 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.5 - 5.5 VOLTS Reference Voltage
VSS 0 0 0 0 - 120 SPEED (MPH) Vehicle Speed
WAC OFF OFF OFF OFF ON/OFF WOT A/C Cutoff
WFS NO NO NO NO NO/YES Water in Fuel

 

Program ICP and IPR% and take the readings at Hot Idle and post them up

 

Thanks for all your help blade. I might not get much done at work tomorrow after going through all these.

 

Your ICP sensor tracks your HPO pressure. Engine needs 500 PSI to start, or .8 volts. The SG II will track both the voltage and the PSI. The IPR % should read 24 - 30% at hot idle. Lower doesn't hurt. The IPR % shows the duty cycle the IPR is being commanded to run. Higher numbers mean it is flowing more oil to the injectors. My truck reads upwards of 75 - 80% at WOT or heavy load when the full HPO PSI of 4,000 or so is needed...

In the Tech Folder there is a thread on normal values for the engine, tranny, etc. I keep it handy in the truck just in case...

 

and here is a Great thread for the codes

if you cant get one to work post up cuz there matbe a fix

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...injectors.html

 

just curious, when yall say "hot idle" are you talking about when the truck is warm and normal idle or the high idle mod?

 

For the Hot Idel would be ECT 190*

the list that I posted has 3 values per pid they are

KOEO=key on engine off
low idel= 628 rpm or so whatever your truck idels at
High Idel=2500 rpm

 

I think the thermostat is too cool for a true reading also. It should be at least 190. Your truck will run better at higher temps too.

 

x1^^^^ Agree.

Here is a partial list of Xgauges with Ford's values.

KO=KEY ON LI=LOW IDLE HI=HIGH IDLE OR=OPERATING RANGE

FICM Vehicle Power (Volts) (Should be 12 Volts, should not drop below 10.25 for more than 60 seconds, or 9.0 for 4 seconds. TSB 09-24-03)

TXD: 07E02209CE

RXF: 0462450906CE

RXD: 3010

MTH: 006401000000

NAM: FVP

KO=12.0 LI=14.0 HI=14.0 OR=10.5-15.5



FICM Logic Power (Volts) (Should be 12 volts)

TXD: 07E02209CF

RXF: 0462450906CF

RXD: 3010

MTH: 006401000000

NAM: FLP

KO=12.0 LI=13.5 HI=13.5 OR=10.5-15.5


FICM Main Power (Volts) (Should be 47-48) Your FMP should never dip below 45. If it does, your FICM is toast and needs repaired or replaced. Check when cold

TXD: 07E02209D0

RXF: 0462450906D0

RXD: 3010

MTH: 006401000000

NAM: FMP

KO=47 LI=47.5 HI=47.5 OR=40-52 (yes, that is what it says from Ford)

VGT Duty Cycle (%)

TXD: 07E022096D

RXF: 04620509066D

RXD: 3010

MTH: 00647FFF0000

NAM: VGT

KO=0 LI=73 HI=43 OR=0-100 %


Engine Oil Temp

TXD: 07E0221310

RXF: 046245130610

RXD: 3010

MTH: 00090005F05F (00090005FFD8 alternate MTH found)

NAM: EOT

Engine hot KO=190 LI=190 HI=190 OR= -40 - 302 *F


Trans. Fluid Temp

TXD: 07E1221674

RXF: 046205160674

RXD: 3010

MTH: 000100080000

NAM: TFT


Inj. Control Press. (ICP / HPOP)

TXD: 07E0221446

RXF: 046205140646

RXD: 3010

MTH: 003900640000

NAM: ICP

KO=0 LI=625.5 HI=1400-1450 OR=0-4045


ICP Voltage (Volts)

TXD: 07E02216AD

RXF: 0462451606AD

RXD: 3010

MTH: 004827100000

NAM: ICV

KO=0.2 LI=1.0 HI=1.8 OR=.15-4.7 Volts


IPR Duty Cycle

TXD: 07E0221434

RXF: 046285140634

RXD: 3008

MTH: 0DCA03E8000A

NAM: IPR %

KO=14.84 LI=24 HI=40.60 OR=0-50 %



EGR Duty Cycle (Percent)

TXD: 07E022166E

RXF: 04620516066E

RXD: 3010

MTH: 006440000000

NAM: EGR

KO=0 LI=0-15 HI=32 OR=0-44 %





EGR Valve Position (mm)

TXD: 07E022096A

RXF: 04620509066A

RXD: 3010

MTH: 000100010000

NAM: EVP

Note: EGR Valve Position in hundredths of a millimeter, where 0 mm indicates a closed EGR valve position.





EGR Valve Position Measured (%)

TXD: 07E02209FE

RXF: 0462050906FE

RXD: 3010

MTH: 00647FFF0000

NAM: EVM
Note: MEASURED EGR Valve Position, in %, where a low value indicates a closed EGR valve (0 EGR flow), and a high value indicates an open EGR valve.

KO=0 LI=0 HI=9.72 OR=0 - 14 PERCENT



EGR Valve Position (Volts 0-5)

TXD: 07E022167E

RXF: 04620516067E

RXD: 3010

MTH: 000133330000

NAM: EGV

KO=0.8 LI=0.8 -1.0 HI=1.3 OR=0.6 - 3.5 VOLT


Camshaft & Crankshaft Sync (1 = in sync, 0 = not in sync)

TXD: 07E02209CD

RXF: 0462050906CD

RXD: 3000 (3001 alternate)

MTH: 000100010000

NAM: SYC

KO=0 LI=1 HI=1 OR 0-1 (NO/YES)


Intake Air Temperature 2 (Fahrenheit)

TXD: 07E02216A8

RXF: 0462051606A8

RXD: 3010

MTH: 000100010000

NAM: IA2

Engine HOT KO=113 LI=113 HI=113 OR= -40-250 *F




Barometric Pressure

TXD: 07E0221127

RXF: 046285110627

RXD: 3008

MTH: 003100500000

NAM: BMP

Here is another BAR if the above one is not working for you. The one below works for me.
Barometric Pressure (PSI)
TXD: 07E0221442
RXF: 046285140642
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001D00500000
NAM: BAR

KO=96.5 (14) LI=96.5 (14) HI=96.5 (14) OR=50 - 120 (7.3 - 17.4) kPa (PSI) 


Exhaust Back Pressure

TXD: 07E0221445

RXF: 046285140645

RXD: 3010

MTH: 001D00500000

NAM: EBP

KO=103 (15) LI=110 (16) HI=110 (16) OR=55 - 607 (8 -88) kPA (PSI)






Mass Fuel Desired (Milligrams Per Stroke)

TXD: 07E0221412

RXF: 046205140612

RXD: 3010

MTH: 000100100000

NAM: MFD

KO=0 LI=7.5 HI=10.7 OR=0-100


Fan Speed Sensor (RPM)

TXD: 07E022099F

RXF: 04620509069F

RXD: 3010

MTH: 000100040000

NAM: FSS

KO=0 LI=533 HI=488 OR=0-4000



Injector Timing Before Top Dead Center (Degrees)

TXD: 07E02209CC

RXF: 0462850906CC

RXD: 3010

MTH: 000A00400000

NAM: ITM

KO=0 LI=-8.71 HI=+3.5 OR-50 - 50 ANGLE (Degrees) Injector Timing (TDC)

( not sure about the above)






Accelerator Pedal Position (%)

TXD: 07E02209D4

RXF: 0462050906D4

RXD: 3008

MTH: 000100020000

NAM: AP%

Key On=0 LI=0 HI=13 Op range=0-17.75 (mine reads up to 99%, not sure why)


DTC Count (Diagnostic Trouble Code Count)

TXD: 07E0220200

RXF: 046205020600

RXD: 3008

MTH: 000100010000

NAM: DTC

Counts trouble code cycles

KO=0 LI=0 HI=0 OR=0 - 255




VREF (Calibration Voltage Input)

TXD: 07E0221155

RXF: 046245110655

RXD: 3010

MTH: 006433330000

NAM: CVI

KO=4.9 LI=4.9 HI=4.9 OR=4.5 - 5.5 VOLTS Reference Voltage