Does this sound RIGHT??????
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Does this sound RIGHT??????
My truck doesnt really get up and go when im on the highway so i took it in and had em switch the fuel filters and oil and air filters along with an oil change. and it still did it so we put it on the computer diagnostics and it said i need an egr cooler, an oil cooler, a high pressure oil pump. he said i was loosing oil pressure as i was at higher rpm's. so when i stepped on the gas it said i was going down to like 700lbs of pressure. and i got quoted at 2564.00. does all this sound right because i am a new diesel owner and am trying to learn all the things i need to know.
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What year is the truck
I doubt you need a High Press oil pump
Best thing that you can do is get a Scangauge and study up the tech folder
www.scangauge.com
A scangauge will read all that you need it to to check the oil cooler and HPO and a ton of other stuff
No Gauges your pretty much at there mercy and I can see there bending you over with NO LUBE
so lets start with info on the truck like year recent work anything
I doubt you need a High Press oil pump
Best thing that you can do is get a Scangauge and study up the tech folder
www.scangauge.com
A scangauge will read all that you need it to to check the oil cooler and HPO and a ton of other stuff
No Gauges your pretty much at there mercy and I can see there bending you over with NO LUBE
so lets start with info on the truck like year recent work anything
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its a 2003 f250 quad cab 4x4. and the recent work history that i have done is new oil,air,fuel filters, and changed the oil to rotella synthetic. i need to get an oasis check to see what all has been done. but what would those gauges show me?
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I'm thinking possible but unlikely. Do you have any other symptom? Smoking out the tail pipe (black or white)? Hard starts (hot or cold)? Coolant level dropping? Poor idle ( hot or cold)? Oil level dropping or raising? Also could you give us some info on your truck? I assume it's a 6.0 but year, mileage, any recent work besides the service you mentioned?
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When those HPO pumps go they usually lose the BB and lose all pressure it doesnt run after that
you will need to monitor ICP and IPR% to see conditionof HPOP
SG will get those 2 plus these well worth the 160.00 and its plug and play into the OBDII port it will see everything the PCM is using to run the truck
TPA Throttle Position Actual (Degrees) TXD: 07E022093C RXF: 04624509063C RXD: 3010 MTH: 0064020000000 NAM: TPA
VGT VGT Duty Cycle (%)
you will need to monitor ICP and IPR% to see conditionof HPOP
SG will get those 2 plus these well worth the 160.00 and its plug and play into the OBDII port it will see everything the PCM is using to run the truck
1CM
Cylinder #1 cumulative misfires TXD: 07E022160E RXF: 04620516060E RXD: 3010 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: 1CM
2CM
Cylinder #2 cumulative misfires TXD: 07E022160F RXF: 04620516060F RXD: 3010 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: 2CM
3CM
Cylinder #3 cumulative misfires TXD: 07E0221610 RXF: 046205160610 RXD: 3010 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: 3CM
4CM
Cylinder #4 cumulative misfires TXD: 07E0221611 RXF: 046205160611 RXD: 3010 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: 4CM
5CM
Cylinder #5 cumulative misfires TXD: 07E0221612 RXF: 046205160612 RXD: 3010 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: 5CM
6CM
Cylinder #6 cumulative misfires TXD: 07E0221613 RXF: 046205160613 RXD: 3010 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: 6CM
7CM
Cylinder #7 cumulative misfires TXD: 07E0221614 RXF: 046205160614 RXD: 3010 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: 7CM
8CM
Cylinder #8 cumulative misfires TXD: 07E0221615 RXF: 046205160615 RXD: 3010 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: 8CM
AP%
Accelerator Pedal Position (%) TXD: 07E02209D4 RXF: 0462050906D4 RXD: 3008 MTH: 000100020000 NAM: AP%
BAT
Battery Voltage (Volts) TXD: 07E0221172 RXF: 046205110672 RXD: 3008 MTH: 000100100000 NAM: BAT
BST
Boost (Untested) TXD: 686AF1010B RXF: 0441850B0000 RXD: 2808 MTH: 00910064FF88 NAM: BST
CVI
VREF (My notes indicate that this is the Calibration VTXD: 07E0221155 RXF: 046205110655 RXD: 3010 MTH: 000133330000 NAM: CVI
EBP
Exhaust Back Pressure TXD: 07E0221445 RXF: 046285140645 RXD: 3010 MTH: 001D00500000 NAM: EBP
EGR EGR Duty Cycle (Percent) TXD: 07E022166E RXF: 04620516066E RXD: 3010 MTH: 006440000000 NAM: EGR
EGV EGR Valve Position (Volts 0-5) TXD: 07E022167E RXF: 04620516067E RXD: 3010 MTH: 000133330000 NAM: EGV
EGR EGR Duty Cycle (Percent) TXD: 07E022166E RXF: 04620516066E RXD: 3010 MTH: 006440000000 NAM: EGR
EGV EGR Valve Position (Volts 0-5) TXD: 07E022167E RXF: 04620516067E RXD: 3010 MTH: 000133330000 NAM: EGV
EOT
Engine Oil Temp. TXD: 07E0221310 RXF: 046245130610 RXD: 3010 MTH: 00090005F05F ( UNAM: EOT
ERT Engine Run Time TXD: 07DF011F RXF: 0441051F RXD: 2810 MTH: 0001003C0000 NAM: ERT (Mi
ERT Engine Run Time TXD: 07DF011F RXF: 0441051F RXD: 2810 MTH: 0001003C0000 NAM: ERT (Mi
ETP
EGR Throttle Position Control Signal TXD: 07E022096C RXF: 04620509066C RXD: 3010 MTH: 00647FFF0000 NAM: ETP
EVD
EGR Valve Position Desired (%) TXD: 07E02209D2 RXF: 0462050906D2 RXD: 3010 MTH: 00647FFF0000 NAM: EVD
EVM
EGR Valve Position Measured (%) TXD: 07E02209FE RXF: 0462050906FE RXD: 3010 MTH: 00647FFF0000 NAM: EVM
EVP
EGR Valve Position (mm) TXD: 07E022096A RXF: 04620509066A RXD: 3010 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: EVP
FI1
Fuel Injector #1 Commanded on (On/0ff) TXD: 07E02209EF RXF: 0462250906EF RXD: 3001 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: FI1
FI2
Fuel Injector #2 Commanded on (On/0ff) TXD: 07E02209EF RXF: 0462250906EF RXD: 3101 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: FI2
FI3
Fuel Injector #3 Commanded on (On/0ff) TXD: 07E02209EF RXF: 0462250906EF RXD: 3201 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: FI3
FI4
Fuel Injector #4 Commanded on (On/0ff) TXD: 07E02209EF RXF: 0462250906EF RXD: 3301 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: FI4
FI5
Fuel Injector #5 Commanded on (On/0ff) TXD: 07E02209EF RXF: 0462250906EF RXD: 3401 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: FI5
FI6
Fuel Injector #6 Commanded on (On/0ff) TXD: 07E02209EF RXF: 0462250906EF RXD: 3501 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: FI6
FI7
Fuel Injector #7 Commanded on (On/0ff) TXD: 07E02209EF RXF: 0462250906EF RXD: 3601 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: FI7
FI8
Fuel Injector #8 Commanded on (On/0ff) TXD: 07E02209EF RXF: 0462250906EF RXD: 3701 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: FI8
FL
Fuel Level TXD: 007E02216C1 RXF: 0462451606C1 RXD: 3010 MTH: 000101480000 NAM: FL
FLP
FICM Logic Power (Volts) (Should be 12 volts) TXD: 07E02209CF RXF: 0462450906CF RXD: 3010 MTH: 0064010000000 NAM: FLP
FMP
FICM Main Power (Volts) (Should be 47-48) TXD: 07E02209D0 RXF: 0462450906D0 RXD: 3010 MTH: 0064010000000 NAM: FMP
FPW
Fuel Injector Pulse Width (microseconds) TXD: 07E0221410 RXF: 046205140610 RXD: 3010 MTH: 000800010000 NAM: FPW
FSS
Fan Speed Sensor (RPM) TXD: 07E022099F RXF: 04620509069F RXD: 3010 MTH: 000100040000 NAM: FSS
FVP
FICM Vehicle Power (Volts) (Should be 12 Volts) TXD: 07E02209CE RXF: 0462450906CE RXD: 3010 MTH: 0064010000000 NAM: FVP
HPR
Horse Power TXD: 00 RXF: 400080000000 RXD: 0000 MTH: 000A00240000 NAM: HPR
IA2
Intake Air Temperature 2 (Fahrenheit) TXD: 07E02216A8 RXF: 0462051606A8 RXD: 3010 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: IA2
ICP
Inj. Control Press. TXD: 07E0221446 RXF: 046205140646 RXD: 3010 MTH: 003900640000 NAM: ICP
IPR %IPR Duty Cycle TXD: 07E0221434 RXF: 046285140634 RXD: 3008 MTH: 0DCA03E8000A NAM: IPR %
IPR %IPR Duty Cycle TXD: 07E0221434 RXF: 046285140634 RXD: 3008 MTH: 0DCA03E8000A NAM: IPR %
ITM
Injector Timing Before Top Dead Center (Degrees) TXD: 07E02209CC RXF: 0462850906CC RXD: 3010 MTH: 000A00400000 NAM: ITM
MFD
Mass Fuel Desired TXD: 07E0221412 RXF: 046245140612 RXD: 3010 MTH: 006400100000 NAM: MFD
PSI
Manifold Absolute Pressure TXD: 07E0221440 RXF: 046285140640 RXD: 3010 MTH: 012203200000 NAM: PSI
PSI Boost TXD: 07E0221440 RXF: 046285140640 RXD: 3010 MTH: 012203200000 NAM: PSI
PSI Boost TXD: 07E0221440 RXF: 046285140640 RXD: 3010 MTH: 012203200000 NAM: PSI
SYC
Crankshaft Position Sensor TXD: 07E02209CD RXF: 0462050906CD RXD: 3000 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: SYC
SYC
Camshaft & Crankshaft in sync (1 = in sync) (AlternTXD: 07E02209CD RXF: 0462050906CD RXD: 3001 MTH: 000100010000 NAM: SYC
TFT
Trans. Fluid Temp. TXD: 07E1221674 RXF: 046205160674 RXD: 3010 MTH:000100080000 NAM: TFT
TP1
Throttle Position 1 (Volts) TXD: 07E0220917 RXF: 046245090617 RXD: 3010 MTH: 0064040000000 NAM: TP1
TP2
Throttle Position 2 (Volts) TXD: 07E0220918 RXF: 046245090618 RXD: 3010 MTH: 0064040000000 NAM: TP2
TPA Throttle Position Actual (Degrees) TXD: 07E022093C RXF: 04624509063C RXD: 3010 MTH: 0064020000000 NAM: TPA
TPD
Throttle Position Desired (Degrees) TXD: 07E022091A RXF: 04624509061A RXD: 3010 MTH: 0064020000000 NAM: TPD
VFD
Volume Fuel Desired TXD: 07E0221411 RXF: 046245140611 RXD: 3010 MTH: 006400100000 NAM: VFD
VGT VGT Duty Cycle (%)
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yes i used the motorcraft filters. also its a 2003 6.0 with 127,000 miles on it. so i need the scan gauge to tell me the numbers.
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The ScanGauge will help you narrow that down and probably save some $.
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ok well does it just plug into that outlet that the diagnostics computer hooks into? and im trying to save some money here but also do it right. college kids dont budget 2500 dollar truck repairs. so any help will be great.
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yes it plugs into the OBDII port
FWIW I dont think you need a High press oil pump
If you did it wouldnt run at all right now
there is a slight chance the HPOP has to much end play but not to common
im thinking ICP sensor or IPR valve or something but not a pump
the Scan gauge can scan for codes to usualy the CEL will have to be on for the SG to pick it up
FWIW I dont think you need a High press oil pump
If you did it wouldnt run at all right now
there is a slight chance the HPOP has to much end play but not to common
im thinking ICP sensor or IPR valve or something but not a pump
the Scan gauge can scan for codes to usualy the CEL will have to be on for the SG to pick it up
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Which codes did the mechanic pull up?
Seems that the 03 EGR coolers were very tough, better than the 04's and up.
How did his diagnostic tool show the oil cooler was plugged?
Here is something I found in the spread sheets, does this sound like your truck?:
"Rough idle issues, rough running motor, loss of throttle peddle and bucking, not starting, high to low idle then no power, motor was shaking, etc.:"
" have seen several trucks with the exact symptoms you describe. When I was able to actually experience the concern, I found that the ICP pressure reading from the ICP sensor was very erratic and would sometimes read 1100psi with the key on engine off. These trucks (and one van) would sometimes set a code P0299 (turbo underboost) after the "dead" pedal symptom occured. Replacing the ICP sensor and connector has cured all of them. "
The wire connector on the 03 ICP's were a problem, and needed to be replaced when putting in a new ICP.
Part# for sensor 3c3z/9f838/ea The # for the connector is 5c3z/12224/a
Seems that the 03 EGR coolers were very tough, better than the 04's and up.
How did his diagnostic tool show the oil cooler was plugged?
Here is something I found in the spread sheets, does this sound like your truck?:
"Rough idle issues, rough running motor, loss of throttle peddle and bucking, not starting, high to low idle then no power, motor was shaking, etc.:"
" have seen several trucks with the exact symptoms you describe. When I was able to actually experience the concern, I found that the ICP pressure reading from the ICP sensor was very erratic and would sometimes read 1100psi with the key on engine off. These trucks (and one van) would sometimes set a code P0299 (turbo underboost) after the "dead" pedal symptom occured. Replacing the ICP sensor and connector has cured all of them. "
The wire connector on the 03 ICP's were a problem, and needed to be replaced when putting in a new ICP.
Part# for sensor 3c3z/9f838/ea The # for the connector is 5c3z/12224/a
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And Sean is right your 2003 has the round EGR cooler they are pretty much bullet proof
Great Catch Sean
Im with ya on the ICP sensor in the 2003 there in a bad spot its very hot right there
here it is
check it out see if the wires are melted together or something odd