6.0 preventative mods
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Being the OP hasn't been back maybe I could hijack for just a minute. In a diesel is there ANY benefit to EGR besides emission reduction? On a gasser with decent compression it allows a little earlier ignition timing before preignition/detonation so it can make a little more power at part throttle. Any similar benefit on a diesel or specifically a 6.0?
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Being the OP hasn't been back maybe I could hijack for just a minute. In a diesel is there ANY benefit to EGR besides emission reduction? On a gasser with decent compression it allows a little earlier ignition timing before preignition/detonation so it can make a little more power at part throttle. Any similar benefit on a diesel or specifically a 6.0?
In theory, I don't think you have the similiar benefit as it is recycling hotter air, which is thinner then cooler air, so HP goes down. At least that is the theory. Which I can understand, how much it goes down that I couldn't tell you and if it's worth debating about.
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thanks for all the info...I havent had any issues yet, but ive only had the truck about a month now...I would like to get a programmer to just play with not run extreme all the time maybe just economy, but on the other hand i didnt want to risk blowing something up....Ive ran gas burners all my life so this diesel change has been rather interesting....on the other hand i love the truck and just dont want to mess it up if i put a programmer on it..I would like to have change on the fly abilities between the settings.....I know the egr delete debate still carries on so im still kind of undecided on the need to do that...
again thanks for all the info
again thanks for all the info
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I wouldn't do that. It's a novelty that carries a lot of risk to it with the 6.0 specifically.
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Ark didn't play TX or TN either year. How about the '00 Cotton Bowl?
The EGR isn't the problem with these trucks...or at least not like everyone else makes it out to be. Yes, when it fails it causes all kinds of $%^& to the engine; mainly will cause the headgaskets to fail. But it wasn't the EGR that caused the whole chain reaction to start...the plugged oil filter is the root cause. Here is where the debate starts...is it casting sand or fall-out in the coolant that causes the oil cooler to plug? Personally, I'd love to see the whole EGR & diesel emissions crap disappear...but we're stuck with 'em. So lets make the best of it.
Having a truck that can legally be driven on the road and sold for on road use etc.
In theory, I don't think you have the similiar benefit as it is recycling hotter air, which is thinner then cooler air, so HP goes down. At least that is the theory. Which I can understand, how much it goes down that I couldn't tell you and if it's worth debating about.
In theory, I don't think you have the similiar benefit as it is recycling hotter air, which is thinner then cooler air, so HP goes down. At least that is the theory. Which I can understand, how much it goes down that I couldn't tell you and if it's worth debating about.
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You sure? I could have sworn it was one of those years that Ark. played Austin at the Cotton bowl.
Preachin to the choir.
The EGR isn't the problem with these trucks...or at least not like everyone else makes it out to be. Yes, when it fails it causes all kinds of $%^& to the engine; mainly will cause the headgaskets to fail. But it wasn't the EGR that caused the whole chain reaction to start...the plugged oil filter is the root cause.
Preachin to the choir.
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Ark didn't play TX or TN either year. How about the '00 Cotton Bowl?The EGR isn't the problem with these trucks...or at least not like everyone else makes it out to be. Yes, when it fails it causes all kinds of $%^& to the engine; mainly will cause the headgaskets to fail. But it wasn't the EGR that caused the whole chain reaction to start...the plugged oil filter is the root cause. Here is where the debate starts...is it casting sand or fall-out in the coolant that causes the oil cooler to plug? Personally, I'd love to see the whole EGR & diesel emissions crap disappear...but we're stuck with 'em. So lets make the best of it.
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Yes, oil COOLER, not the filter. At least I recovered the fumble a couple of lines down when I mentioned it's the cooler that's plugging on the coolant side...and causing the chain reaction. Boys & squirrels, this is why you should proofread your post before posting it....and reading through it after you post it isn't a bad idea either.'68 was Tx A&M 20 - AL 16; '69 was TX 36 - TN 16...maybe that's what your thinking of?
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Too busy talking about Ark Football I missed this post.Also, there are some programers that will cause all kinds of havioc on the 5R110 (auto transmission). Bully Dog comes to mind as the main offender, but pretty much any of the "off the shelf" programmers/tuners that don't address shift points and torque converter lock-up are going to blow the guts out of the slushbox over time. Like I said in a couple of posts back, call me a stick in the mud if your must.
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jchampion116, do the tuner last. Start with the coolant filter, then gauges to monitor the oil/coolant temperature delta. If your coolers are clogged and you don't like/want burned/sooty diesel gasses recycled through your engine, let the mods begin
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