Okay I'm gonna buy a bundle, one of the many kits available to bullet proof the 6.0 from the main problems and I can't figure out which one would be best. And I want the kit that includes the Most for the Best Price obviously. I'm looking at the kit from Custom Diesel for my 07, but not sure if the AB HPOP Screen with the Oil Cooler among other things. The description isn't doesn't get too in depth.
06-07 Ford 6.0 Powerstroke EGR Delete Total Solution Kit

Among other things which this Kit does not have, what else Can I get? I've read the long articles, but non mention any basic kit to which I can start from. Thanks!

 

Are the head gaskets in the kit OEM head gaskets or Black Onyx head gaskets.

You do not want the BO head gaskets.

 

here's the language they use to describe their product;
These are 5 layer MLS head gaskets with elastomer coating. Embossment shapes are designed to improve durability. This Part Number is for 2006-2007 20mm Dowel motors. Any motor built before 1/11/2006 will require an 18mm Dowel Head Gasket.

so... bet a cheeseburger it's BO. otherwise, they's say... OEM.....

look at BPD's web site, and read a bit there..... before you drop money on anything....

 

the stock head gaskets are good gaskets have not seen a set fail yet with studs, and we see alot of 6.0l threw the shop, have not heard anything good about the bo gaskets but nothing bad, the oil cooler in the truck works perfectly fine and the only reason that they fail in the stock setup is little chunks of black soot get into the coolant system when the cooler fails and then plugs the coolant passages and restricts flow which causes high temps, i would recomend either of the egr coolers from bulletproof, one is a built cooler that retains the factory setup and is gaurenteed no to fail and the other is a delete and looks like a factory cooler but will not flow gases, oil if you do the upgraded cooler then the factory will work fine just make sure you flush the coolant system really good, you can get some vc-9 from a ford dealer and it works really good just have to get the coolant flushed really good after using it, if you really want to keep your oil temps down and dont plane on getting ride of the truck bullet proof sales a good setup but a little spendy.

basically stud the heads put either a beefed up egr cooler on or a delete, you deside on the oil cooler which way to go but factory works perfectly fine, turbo just run the ***** out of it and if it fails buy a non vgt turbo

 

For the most part, good post 1973dieselhighboy (didn't read it thoroughly the first time I guess, so I agree w/ wulfman's question below)

Also, here is info on the BO gaskets (along w/ a recommendation to do a search on any of the 12 or so 6.0L forums on the subject):
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...<br /> <br />

 

Please explain the ( chunks of black soot get in the coolant system and plug up the oil cooler when the EGR cooler fails ). This is something i have never heard about and probably anyone else on here .

 

Wow thanks for the replies. One kit has the OEM gaskets and I would rather stick with them. One kit says, Ford Head Gaskets so I'm gonna bet they mean OEM.. But to go with the egr delete or cooler? I would rather not worry about problems with egr

 

depends on where you live. if you are in a state that smogs....

i'd go with a BPD egr cooler, and disable the egr valve with software.
then you can turn it on for smog check days.....

calif. is now doing annual diesel inspections with obd connection,
and visual... and the station i got inspected at was looking very
closely to make sure the EGR cooler was still there...... that's most
of what his inspection focused on.... under the manifold....

 

I don't have to worry about the inspections here and I've read that the software tuners don't totally restrict the egr but that it doesn't allow the egr to constantly run or what not. Am I gonna be blowing a bunch of black smoke if the egr is deleted cause that's fine with me lol

 

Deleting your EGR system will not cause it to blow black smoke .

 

Damn my gf will be happy to hear that lol!

Okay as for kits, (I would rather just get most of all the fixes at once) Custom Diesel, Bullet Proof Diesel, or Sinister (Bullet Proof Diesel is pretty pricy and doesn't say if they use OEM gaskets or not, Sinister defitently does at a fair price, But still not positive about Custom Diesel; just says 6.0 head gaskets.)

Thanks again, sorry if this was already answered

 

with the soot getting into the coolant system what happens when the egr cooler fails it gets a hole or crack in it and since the exhaust back pressure is alot higher it pushes exhaust gas into the coolant system and causes soot that has built up in the cooler to push into the coolant system, and cause the oil cooler has such small passages for coolant it is very easy for it to get restricted and thats what causes the high oil temps

 

That's only half the story. It doesn't matter if you are in a state that smogs are not. It is still illegal to remove emissions equipment if it came from the factory that way.

There are only two legal reason for messing with emissions equipment:

1. To fix it
2. To replace it with an equal or greater component.

If y'all want to advocate something that is illegal to do, that's on y'all, but at least tell the whole story

Better hope that whoever buys it from you when you go to sell it doesn't mind that it's been eliminated. Otherwise, that can be quite the costly mistake for you.


I have seen shops and people get written up for violations like this and it ended up causing the closure of those shops and this is in areas that do not have aggressive smog testing.


Oil cooler fails first and then the EGR cooler.

I have known people with high temps, oil cooler plugged up and no breach on the EGR Cooler. In your scenario there would have to be a breach. I'm sure this can easily turn into a chicken v. egg debate pretty quickly though.

 

Many EGR cooler leaks are first detected by noticing coolant in the exhaust that came from coolant leaking into the intake via the bad EGR cooler. The more severe cases of exhaust gasses entering the coolant system (and introducing soot) are from head gasket leaks, although it does also happen (to a lessor degree) with EGR cooler leaks.

And, as Tex said, more commonly the oil cooler plugs on the coolant side which restricts coolant flow to the EGR cooler causing it to fail from excessive heat.

 

point well made. my thoughts were if you were *going* to do something
like this, a solution reversible with a software update is better than a
fix that takes half a day, and a fair bit of money.

everything i put down was pretty much parroted from the BPD web page
about what to do with the egr cooler.

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it never even occurred to me to mention that it's illegal. it's a given
for most of us.

it's even more illegal if you get caught.

california uses mobil spot checks occasionally on vehicle emissions, pulling
people over and checking. it was mainly targeted at gross polluters,
to get them off the road, and as a revenue generator.

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try reflashing your tunes back to stock while chatting with the CHP
officer, and see how that goes over..... while explaining all
the empty beer cans in the bed of the truck are just there cause you
recycle....

it would appear that calif. is targeting diesels for emissions violations.
my 06 was not called for a smog inspection till last year, and they
are biennial here. then i got called again this year. looks like they
are hitting diesels every year here.

and mine is fully compliant, throws no codes... even the banks
IQ is CARB approved... which seems to be it's only redeeming
value. i didn't know the reputation they had when i bought it.