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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 08:59 PM
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Alright Guys, this is me coming home and I need your guys' help. I am currently trying to save my ranch in Roundup, MT now that I am home. I am gonna be in need of a tractor, and new livestock, grass hay on the land and water drilled for. I need ideas on the best way to go about doing it as easily as possible, I know there are ranchers on here and farmers, what do you guys think? For the tractor here is what I am looking for:

John Deere mid-size utility tractor(40-100hp) with a front loader, at least 25 HP PTO, I am looking to spend less than 10,000 dollars on a tractor, keep an eye out for me will ya?

New Livestock: I am looking to run Angus/Semintal crosses or straight Angus. I would like a couple cow calf pair to get started.(this is more of the local help(yes that means you Jayme)

Drilling for water, well.....its as simple as that and I know I dont have the equipment to do it with so I will need someone who knows where to go or who to contact.

My truck now that its all been fixed up is what I will be using to do all this with, its going to be the staple that holds all this crap together.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 09:58 PM
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Tractor shouldn't be too hard to find a deal....Good luck finding cheap Angus cows though...

For the well, i'd check your yellow pages for well companies (when you get back...).

While i love John Deere, if you're wanting a starter tractor on a budget, you might want to look at other brands, or much older tractors.... JD carries a hefty price tag even used...
 
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 10:19 PM
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I knew you would say that, I had a 1086 International and I sold it(dumb idea haha). I bet I could find some sort of deal, jsut need some help with it all because while I have been on a ranch all my life, I have never had to save one, nor run one. Btw Chris, I am in the United States haha.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 10:29 PM
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Welcome back!

Might look for a farm auction near you. Might even have to get the loader separate, though i'm not sure...
 
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 10:30 PM
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See if theres something in here you like...

missoula farm & garden classifieds "loader" - craigslist
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 01:11 AM
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Found my TRACTOR!!! John Deere Tractor 2005 790 4x4 diesel

Like I said I dont need a big one....
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 02:32 AM
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I have a feeling cattle prices will be dropping soon. With all the crap weather down in TX OK etc there's a ton of farms/ranches that simply don't have the feed supply for their cattle through the winter season. I've talked to one rancher in TX who at the end of July only had 1/4th of what he needed on a typical basis to feed his herd through the winter, and by end of July he had already had to start feeding them his winter supply of hay.

How big of a ranch are you taking over?
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 06:24 AM
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Does the ranch currently have any water rights? Where does or did the water come from originally?

Driller can get the permit if everything else is ok but well drilling has gotten pretty expensive unless you have a "friend". Around my dads place, no water rights equals no well. All the water above and underground has been allocated.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Aune163rd
Found my TRACTOR!!! John Deere Tractor 2005 790 4x4 diesel

Like I said I dont need a big one....
You're gonna love that little thing.... Looks like its in remarkable shape...and only 320 hours..... that guy didnt hardly use it!


Swoosh, i'd heard the same thing about texas, what with the heat and drought they're going through....


Never thought about that Mistaken. If he owns the land shouldnt he have rights to the water under it? Or does it not work like that...?
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Aune163rd
Found my TRACTOR!!! John Deere Tractor 2005 790 4x4 diesel

Like I said I dont need a big one....
I would check out lift capacity and pto output on that one..... Better to buy too much than not enough. I bought a Kubota M4700 in 2003 when I took over the family place, best 10g I ever spent, no problems at all!
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 10:20 AM
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I would check out lift capacity and pto output on that one..... Better to buy too much than not enough. I bought a Kubota M4700 in 2003 when I took over the family place, best 10g I ever spent, no problems at all!
I agree im assuming you would want to move round bales or big squares. Most small square balers require 35hp min, double that so it doesnt surge on every plunger stroke.

I deally you want something you can get parts for. John deere will sell any part for that 4010 you could ever want, the same with the IH 966/766.

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1963 JOHN DEERE 4010 Tractors - 40 HP to 99 HP For Sale At TractorHouse.com&

Now its a bit far but this might be idael for you
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1973 INTERNATIONAL 966 Tractors - 40 HP to 99 HP For Sale At TractorHouse.com&
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 10:37 AM
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84, I dont know the PTO rating, but we run a small IH baler with an International 460 (Edit: seems to be around 45hp). Handles it just fine.


If you're going to be baling, or moving round bales you're going to want a bigger tractor real soon...


We had two 4020s at work and love them. tough and simple. Be careful on hills though...i've heard of a couple tipping over around here...
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 11:26 AM
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Don't buy that tractor.

It too small. It best to buy little BIG why in later you able to use something you can't do with that small tractor.


Check Ford's Industrial tractor they STOUT for any work.

I would say 50 or higher hp should be enough.


Here we would find tons old farm tractors with about 40-100 HP for under $4000 they are BIG than my F250 reg cab.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 12:08 PM
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honestly if your gunna use it, go with something at least 50 horse, and diesel. look for an older Ford, IH or Case if you can find one. a 50 horse tractor is the perfect size for mowing hay, baleing, and just about any other general utility work
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 12:17 PM
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get a bigger tractor than that JD something in the 50-80 HP range will do more and you will be happier with it ! tractors = bigger is better unless you have to move it alot with a small truck !
cattle if your not to picky they can be gotten fairly cheap even if you have to go pick them up from another state !
 
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