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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 09:41 PM
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About to hop back to Tampa from Miami. Just got back from a rough week of work in St. Croix. I'll get all caught up when I get settled....
Poor guy. I hope you get through this rough time Joe. I am pulling for you.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 05:05 PM
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Just got this today... Thanks Ryan!! I owe you one!!

 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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EXCELLENT!! Glad it got there. I've had issues with the Postal Service lately when shipping priority. Hope you can get some use out of it!
 
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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Wow, am I stummped.

I have done all the right things here and still have issues.

I pulled the dash apart and got to the VSM. Un-plugged everything except the headlight and dimmer swithch. Took apart the doors, cleaned and lubed the mechanisms. Checked each door and the door ajar light came on for each one individually, as per normal. Still no dome, courtesy or cargo lights. Everything else works perfectly on the truck ( 2002 F-350 Lariat Crew Cab)

I ordered a new - revised VSM from Ford. I picked up the part on Tuesday and needed it programmed, no problem. I did not install it. I went to get fuel on Tuesday after work and all of a sudden, all the courtesy light started working normally. (they haven't worked in three weeks).?

I had a appointment to get programmed on Wednesday afternoon, so I kept the appointment, swapped boxes and got it done. Everything continued to work. I left the dash apart due to no time to put it together.

Last night, Thursday, things were working just fine. I put the dash back together again and wouldn't you know, I get it all buttoned up, and the lights stoppped working again. This is with the new VSM properly programed by a Ford Senior Master Tech. Just the dome, door courtesy and cargo again. Everything else works perfectly. I even checked each door and the ajar light comes on when each is opened individually.

Could there be a short in one of the dome, courtesy, cargo wires? I guess there is a relay in the gauge cluster that clicks when the dimmer switch is rolled past the detent to turn the lights on (which stoppped working also) Could that relay be my issue?

I am starting to get a little frustrated, any insight?

P.S. These lights should come on when any door is opened, the unlock button is pressed on the key fob, the dimmer is rollled up past the detent. All either worked perfect, or not at all.

Thanks .
 
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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Well, I just got off the phone with the local dealer here. He said $109 to program it, but he told me how to program it up for the fobs myself. About to put it in and see what happens.

Oh, and AZ finally replaced my alt for me. That was a bit of a chore -- they superceded the part I had with something else, and with a different core charge. So he had to play a lot of games to get me the correct part in the system replacing the old part at no charge. Fun...
 
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragcity
Wow, am I stummped.

I have done all the right things here and still have issues.

I pulled the dash apart and got to the VSM. Un-plugged everything except the headlight and dimmer swithch. Took apart the doors, cleaned and lubed the mechanisms. Checked each door and the door ajar light came on for each one individually, as per normal. Still no dome, courtesy or cargo lights. Everything else works perfectly on the truck ( 2002 F-350 Lariat Crew Cab)

I ordered a new - revised VSM from Ford. I picked up the part on Tuesday and needed it programmed, no problem. I did not install it. I went to get fuel on Tuesday after work and all of a sudden, all the courtesy light started working normally. (they haven't worked in three weeks).?

I had a appointment to get programmed on Wednesday afternoon, so I kept the appointment, swapped boxes and got it done. Everything continued to work. I left the dash apart due to no time to put it together.

Last night, Thursday, things were working just fine. I put the dash back together again and wouldn't you know, I get it all buttoned up, and the lights stoppped working again. This is with the new VSM properly programed by a Ford Senior Master Tech. Just the dome, door courtesy and cargo again. Everything else works perfectly. I even checked each door and the ajar light comes on when each is opened individually.

Could there be a short in one of the dome, courtesy, cargo wires? I guess there is a relay in the gauge cluster that clicks when the dimmer switch is rolled past the detent to turn the lights on (which stoppped working also) Could that relay be my issue?

I am starting to get a little frustrated, any insight?

P.S. These lights should come on when any door is opened, the unlock button is pressed on the key fob, the dimmer is rollled up past the detent. All either worked perfect, or not at all.

Thanks .
Could this be a bad light switch??? I'm wondering if all your issues are related to that. Have you pulled it out & had a look at it yet?
 
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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Dan, that looks almost exactly like the alternator I have, and I've been having problems I mentioned in another thread that are still not fixed. Did you remove the old OEM wire and put this one direct to the pos batt term, or did you leave the old one in place? And does that ground wire just bolt to the fender/ chassis over there?

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4 gauge Positive and 2 guage ground.

 
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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Replaced the VSM today after getting the new-rebuilt AZ alt in. It was a pretty easy job, actually. No programming from the dealer required. I simply installed it & tested to make sure that the power locks, auto-lights, etc. were all working (they were), then programmed my remotes to it using the steps in the manual. So the truck is up 100% now. Special thanks to Ryan once again for sending me his VSM -- I REALLY appreciate that!! Here are a few pics of the job (the VSM is the box with the gray, green, & blue connector plugged into it). It was easily accessible pulling the lower part of the dash...







 
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Izzy351
Could this be a bad light switch??? I'm wondering if all your issues are related to that. Have you pulled it out & had a look at it yet?
Yes, that was early on my list of components to check. I checked it with an Ohm meter and even installed a known working unit, still no luck.

Silly thing is, this morning, I got in the truck to come to work, and still no lights. I get to work, open the door to get out, and the lights now work.

I used the truck all weekend and nothing worked, now they do.

I am very sure it is the relay that is the 10 minute battery saver. I bet that if I keep that from tripping, I will be all set. If it trips, Is will stay closed and I will have nothing again. Makes sense, because it's all or nothing, and everything else is working flawlessly.

Hmmm, I wonder if that function can be programmed to be disabled?

If my sources are correct, that relay lives in the gauge cluster, which is non-serviceable, it's soldered to the electronic circuit board. I had that apart and inspected it.

So, if anyone needs a used and working VSM for an F-350 Larait, it's going cheap at half price, pre-programmed.....

I guess I'll keep my eyes peeled for a repalcement cluster.

Joe...
 
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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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This is to update and finalize my issue with the courtesy lights....

Apparently, there was a very small leak in a plug in the roof. A little corrosion started on the front dome light assy. connector and ground of my 2002 Crew Cab. That shorted the fixture, providing power at all times. The relay did its job by shutting power off after ten minutes though.

The other problem was a pin connector that failed elsewhere in the wiring. Must have been an expansion/contraction thing. Looked like the female portion was enlarged. This is what caused the intermittent behavior. (which subsequently failed all together)

So, pin connector replaced, dome assy replaced, and all works well now.

Thank God I have a friend who is a Senior Master Tech at Ford. His skills are remarkable and any Ford Dealer is blessed to have one like him.
 
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