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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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I used a breaker bar on the crank pully bolt. I didn't pull the injectors or glowplugs but it wold sure help. I wouldn't use the starter. It might be harmful to your health.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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Use a socket on the crank bolt to turn it , and you won't have to pull the gp's or the injectors. It can be done with mirrors and a light if you have good eyes to line the marks up. I recomend pulling the front off so you know 100% sure you are in time as it will run a tooth off, but will never peform right.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kenpobuck
I used a breaker bar on the crank pully bolt. I didn't pull the injectors or glowplugs but it wold sure help. I wouldn't use the starter. It might be harmful to your health.
guess ill have to eat my wheaties today
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by starmilt
Use a socket on the crank bolt to turn it , and you won't have to pull the gp's or the injectors. It can be done with mirrors and a light if you have good eyes to line the marks up. I recomend pulling the front off so you know 100% sure you are in time as it will run a tooth off, but will never peform right.
looks like quite an operation to pull the cam cover

looks like ill have to take most of the front end off the motor
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 02:15 PM
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It'll be a lot easier to rotate if you pull the Glow plugs, though you do not need to!

I don't understand why one would fight it, they are just too easy to pull.

Personally, I'd rather do more work easier!

-Enjoy
fh : )_~
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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If you go that route it will. Not just the waterpump lol. There are also 2 bolts in the front on the oilpan that come out as well. When you pull the waterpump make a reference as to what hole the bolts came from. They are different lengths and if put back in the wrong holes wil cause damage to the gears.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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Festus. I had just put on a return line kit and after reading on here about leaks after disturbing them I didn't want otbuy an other one lol.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by kenpobuck
If you go that route it will. Not just the waterpump lol. There are also 2 bolts in the front on the oilpan that come out as well. When you pull the waterpump make a reference as to what hole the bolts came from. They are different lengths and if put back in the wrong holes wil cause damage to the gears.
so basically i should get it to line up by spinning the motor over
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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That is correct.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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There is only one dot on the crankshaft gear.
On the cam drive gear there is one dot and one y.
On the IP drive gear there is one y.

Crankshaft makes two revolutions for each revolution of the crankshaft.
IP makes one revolution for each revolution of the cam drive gear.

If you pull the water pump and timing gear cover, when the two dots are together and the two y's are together, the gears are in time and the engine has piston #1 at TDC.

The IP will only go onto the IP drive gear in one location because of the dowel pin.

So once the gears are in time, everything else is in time.

When it goes back together, if you line the IP drive gear cover static timing mark with the IP static timing mark, the engine will fire and run.

After everything is back together, dynamic timing of the IP by rotating the IP on the IP drive gear housing can fine tune the injection event.

With the IDI gear driven timing, the only time you have a problem is when the gears are un meshed.

There is no proper timing for the oil pump.
It only has to be driven by the crankshaft, not in time with it.
 
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