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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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Ford F-150 Super Crew Code

Hi All,

I have a 2005 Ford F150 Super crew with the 5.4 L Triton. Came home tonight with a rough running engine and got a code "PO174 System too lean bank 2".

Whats wrong? Is this a fuel control problem?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 08:44 PM
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Just a follow up.

I took out and cleaned the mass airflow sensor and reinstalled it. The truck runs perfect.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 11:44 AM
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Rumble is back today, now I'm getting a cyl 5 misfire, replaced the coil and plug but no better.

Any advice?
 
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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 11:59 AM
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How many miles? Have you ever replaced the plugs? So on and So forth.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by EBTDM
How many miles? Have you ever replaced the plugs? So on and So forth.
Good point, it has 92,000 miles on it and has been trouble free.

Still getting the PO174 code and also "cyl 5 misfire"

Just replaced the coil and plug on what I believe is the #5 cyl. (drivers side front). No change. Is the drivers side front #5?
 
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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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I believe that you are correct on the #5 cylinder location.

Am I correct in understanding that you replaced one plug and the other 7 have 92K on them ...?
 
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by EBTDM
I believe that you are correct on the #5 cylinder location.

Am I correct in understanding that you replaced one plug and the other 7 have 92K on them ...?
Yes that's correct, I just arrived in Stockholm so I was just trying to get the truck running until I got back. But I still have a misfire and the analyzer says its a misfire on #5 cyl.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 07:24 AM
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Wow, I can not say that I would have tried that but your situation was unique.
Now for #5, I understand that the COP connector contacts are very easy to bend. You may want to give that some close inspection.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 08:41 AM
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Thanks, I'll check that when I get back. My next stops are Mumbai, Delhi and then Vietnam so I won't be able to check anything for 15 days.
 
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Talk to you next month, enjoy your trip.
 
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Okay I'm back and checked everything and still have a misfire on number 5. I replaced the coil and spark-plug, no good. I just want to confirm that the number 5 cyl. is the DRIVER SIDE FRONT of the engine? Is this correct?
 
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Originally Posted by empennage
Hi All,

I have a 2005 Ford F150 Super crew with the 5.4 L Triton. Came home tonight with a rough running engine and got a code "PO174 System too lean bank 2".

Whats wrong? Is this a fuel control problem?

Thanks in advance!
I see where you have replaced the cop and the plug on number 5 cylinder, but have you thought about a bad or fouled fuel injector? You are in Stokholm? Try running some fuel injector cleaner through the system. Let us know the results.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldguy4
I see where you have replaced the cop and the plug on number 5 cylinder, but have you thought about a bad or fouled fuel injector? You are in Stokholm? Try running some fuel injector cleaner through the system. Let us know the results.
Was scratching my head last night in my garage and called my friend who is a retired engineer at the Picatinny Arsenal here in NJ last night and he said the exact same thing you did Oldguy4. Pulled the injector on #5 and tried it out of the hole and its clogged....Bingo.

It pays to talk to old guys!

Thanks!!
 
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P0174 - System Too Lean (Bank 2)


Description:
See the description for DTC P0171.
Possible Causes:


See the possible causes for DTC P0171.
Diagnostic Aids:


See the diagnostic aids for DTC P0171.
Application Key On Engine Off Key On Engine Running Continuous Memory

All — — GO to Pinpoint Test H.
P0171 - System Too Lean (Bank 1)
Description:


The adaptive fuel strategy continuously monitors the fuel delivery hardware. The test fails
when the adaptive fuel tables reach a rich calibrated limit. Refer to Section 1,

Powertrain
Control Software

Fuel Trim for more information.
Possible Causes:


Fuel System:


Ethanol content in the fuel


Fuel filter plugged or dirty


Damaged or worn fuel pump


Leaking fuel pump check valve


Leaking or contaminated fuel injectors


Low fuel pressure or running out of fuel


Evaporative emission (EVAP) canister purge valve is leaking when the canister is clean


Fuel supply line restricted


Fuel rail pressure (FRP) sensor bias
Exhaust System:


Exhaust leaks in the exhaust manifold gasket or mating gaskets before or near the heated
oxygen sensor (HO2S)
EGR System:


Vacuum hose disconnected on exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) system module (ESM)
applications


EGR valve tube or gasket leak


EGR vacuum regulator solenoid leak
Intake Air System:


Air leaks after the mass air flow (MAF) sensor


Vacuum leaks


Positive crankcase ventilation (PCV) system is leaking or the valve is stuck open


Incorrectly seated engine oil dipstick


Intake air turbulence due to incorrect air filter


Damaged or contaminated MAF sensor
Diagnostic Aids:


View the freeze frame data to determine the operating conditions when the DTC was set.
Observe the LONGFT1 and LONGFT2 PIDs. Refer to Section 2,

Adaptive Fuel Diagnostic
Trouble Code (DTC) Diagnostic Techniques

, for more information and the appropriate
pinpoint test for specific concern identification.
Application Key On Engine Off Key On Engine Running Continuous Memory

All — — GO to Pinpoint
HTH- Tim

This is for 09-10 guessing the DTC's might still be the same?
 
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