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Old 05-28-2010, 10:23 AM
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Yup, FoMoCo was back on the original T-birds and Mustangs. As for the interior, I love the gauges but have not seen the rest of the truck, just pics of the gauges.
I agree on the styling, not my tastes at all. But as far as the "presentation" of the engine, while it may be difficult to work on with the cab on the rig, so are all the diesels. As for the looks, it is not designed to be nice looking, but a work horse- designed for functionality. Personally, I am not a fan of the new SD either. As others have said, to each his/her own. Just remember what the trucks were originally created for.
 
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As for the looks, it is not designed to be nice looking, but a work horse- designed for functionality. Personally, I am not a fan of the new SD either. As others have said, to each his/her own. Just remember what the trucks were originally created for.
Well I kinda feel stupid about the FoMoCo comment, can you tell I'm a GM family convert? Yes, I agree these trucks are meant to be work horses, so why on earth can't you pressure wash the interior of these trucks out? My 04 is only the Triton 5.4 but man, she'll take whatever beating you throw at her. This new SD probably drives great, but unless they made it MUCH smoother than my 04, if you leave the asphalt your noodle will be scrambled hitting that headliner over and over. Hell I've hit mine on occaision and I have several more inches of space

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While I haven't checked out a new Stupor Duty, I do know that vehicles that have a factory installed sunroof (FoMoCo = Moonroof) have less headroom than without it.
THis truck had no sun roof, just those stupid air bags. But those are a rant I don't want to get started on, but IMO a roll bar would have been money better spent.
 
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Old 05-28-2010, 12:03 PM
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they are becoming more focused then ever...
ah ha... I get it
 
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ah ha... I get it
LMAO!
 
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I now have 1300Km (807m) on my 2011 6.2L SD and love everything about it. I have the XLT XTR two tone adobe, grey interior and have no problem with it. Did a 600 mile trip on Saturday and the seats are comfortable for myself, my wife and the dog(Ok he's not very big). I guess I just one of those easy to please, boring 90%'ers. YMMV
 
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Originally Posted by 5.4L to Freedom
THis truck had no sun roof, just those stupid air bags. But those are a rant I don't want to get started on, but IMO a roll bar would have been money better spent.
Uh huh...I'd hate to see what could happen, if you hit your noodle on a roll bar!

Airbags, seat belts, crumple zones and other safety equipment that y'all may have a disdain for, are mandated by the NHTSA...like it, or not.

btw: Believe it, or not...my DD is a 2008 Fusion, w/o a sunroof. I just tilt the seat back a bit, have no problem with headroom, or legroom, and @ 6-5, 350, I'm sasquatched sized.

As I've told my local dealer more than once...When FoMoCo wakes up and offers the 6.2L in an F150 (besides the Raptor), I'll be the first in line to buy one.
 
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Nope, you'll be second!
 
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Originally Posted by 5.4L to Freedom
My 04 is only the Triton 5.4 but man, she'll take whatever beating you throw at her.
Except a 15k lb trailer... I had a 5.4 2V and it was a real turd.

Sorry man, couldn't resist!
 
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I saw some 2011's at the local delaer yesterday. I could tell the diesels by the 2 FOOT DIAMETER LOGO on the front doors. Ummm, really Ford? Sheesh. Let's leave kindergarten here and enter the adult world....

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Everyone keeps talking about less room in the cab.... Isnt the cab the same as previous models? Does it have less room because of the headliner and seats, or is the cab actually different?
 
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Originally Posted by 5.4L to Freedom
1. The cab feels too small: our Super Duty's have massive cabs, and that's one of the things I truly love about my SD. Today my buddy and I checked out a 2011, he's 6' 4" and with the seat all the way up his head touched the headliner. In my 04, with the seat all the way up there is room for me to put my fist between his head and the headliner... whats up with that?
I'm sure that fully loaded truck came with a power driver seat. He should have simply moved the seat downward.

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3. The interior is nice, but all the detail and class they put into the dash is destroyed with random assortments of cheap materials. Take for instance the headliner. This truck was equipped with a tan cloth interior appointed with chrome and a two tone. It's impressive... until you see the cheap looking headliner and crappy sun visors. Yes the visors have a vanity, but the material they are made from looks like a cheap handbag found in a walmart childrens department. Furthermore, the headliner material looks to be a mixture of ink stained-burlap sack and construction paper. I have seen Hyaundais with more quality headliners and visors... c'mon ford my 2004 headliner looks 1 million times better... how do you improve an interior 10 fold then take a step backwards in the headliner you forced us to look at by making it closer to our head?
At the end of the day remember you were still sitting in a pickup truck, NOT a luxury SUV. Unlike many luxury cars where most of your money is going into interior fit and finish, quiet ride, and a killer sound system these trucks are built with a heavy bias towards working.

For example, my truck is an '08 XLT CC 4x4 PSD truck. Cloth seats, power windows, locks, CD player, and that's about it. MSRP was $46K. A 2011 is around $48K for this configuration. Can you honestly expect a world-class luxury interior for another $6K? Especially when you have to throw in the larger wheels, chrome accents, and all the other goodies that come with the Lariat trims?

It's still a pickup truck!

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4. Have you actually popped the hood of a new Scorpion diesel? The engine is a powerhouse and liberating Ford owners from the grips of post-7.3L Navistar. However, when you look under that hood... omg I wanted to vomit. That power comes with a $8-10K option of more crap under that hood than I can fit into my bed. The only reason I consider this an issue is because even though the EPA is responsible for 9/10's of that engine compartment but the presentation is horrible. Presentation aside, how in the heck are you supposed to work on the darn thing? If you stand just at the right angle you can kinda see a rocker cover or something, and maybe half a turbo. It's really intimidating to look at, and that doesn't make me want to buy it any more.
So you acknowledge that the EPA is the reason behind the lousy underhood layout, so why bash the truck? I'd be willing to bet my 6.4L is worse, but I know who to blame for that! And it ain't Navistar!

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5. This truely is negligable but the FX4 logos look like a mixture of a ghetto tag, paint scrapes, and MTV pop culture. Once again it's a pickup, not a power wheel.
I agree, but many must like that sort of thing or they wouldn't put it on the truck! Easy to remove, and you can find older generation FX4 decals on the internet to satisfy yourself.

Cool thread, I'm interested to see where this one goes!
 
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I'm usually slow to adapt to changes so by the time that the new 2011 style is old enough to purchase used I should be ready for it.
 
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Originally Posted by Futuresweets-10
Everyone keeps talking about less room in the cab.... Isnt the cab the same as previous models? Does it have less room because of the headliner and seats, or is the cab actually different?
The cab is the same. Has been the same since '99. The rest of the sheet metal other than the tailgate and back bumper is new.

The cab has seats from the F150 (I HATE the headrests), a flow through console and a different headliner to fit the new airbags. That's where the smaller feeling comes from.

I bet a lot of guys will be buying trucks with the 40/20/40 bench and replacing the center seat with an '08-'10 console,
 
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Old 05-29-2010, 03:13 PM
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I'm usually slow to adapt to changes so by the time that the new 2011 style is old enough to purchase used I should be ready for it.
Lol, same here. Every time I look at that front end I want to flip the truck up on it's tailgate and slap some steaks on the front end of that sucker!
But I am sure that as my tastes change and more of an aftermarket hits for these trucks I will come around a bit more. Dunno how long it will take for the fiberglass spare tires they call a dually fender will grow on me though. Sort of took the ***** off the back end of the DRW, if ya ask me.
 
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I bet a lot of guys will be buying trucks with the 40/20/40 bench and replacing the center seat with an '08-'10 console,

I hope they do, because I want the 2011 console in my '09. I like the 4 cup holder much better than my jump seat 2 cup holder. just not sure if it will fit since I have a floor shifting 4x4.
 


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