help with motor casting number Identification!
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help with motor casting number Identification!
Can somebody please tell me what these numbers I have located on the casting block mean. The first one I know is a simply means the casting factory of 58 DIF. However the only other numbers I was able to locate were on the block in the cylinder shaped holes stamped in small letters 49 then directly underneath that in small numbers 64, then underneath that in large numbers 62. What does this mean? I am going nuts trying to find out the motor I have because what I thought was a 390 may or may not be. The manifold came off a 1966 high performance motor with the holley 4 barrell. Carls ford parts in Ohio helped me find that out when I could not find a thermostat to fit the motor. So, I dont know if they swithed the entire motor out or just the manifold and carb off the high performance motor. The Vin says it originally was a 360.
Can somebody please help? Do those numbers mean anything?
Can somebody please help? Do those numbers mean anything?
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Yeah, you'll need to pull a spark plug and bring #1 to TDC and drop a dowel or something in there and make a mark. Take #1 to BDC and drop it in again and re-mark and then measure the distance.
I'm the one that told you what manifold you had btw.
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I'm the one that told you what manifold you had btw.
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Thank you again for that. I would have been totally lost without what you told me. How will the stroke though tell me whether or not the motor is a high performance motor?
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It won't tell you the build, but it will help narrow down if you have a 352/360 (3.50" stroke) a 390 (3.78" stroke) or possibly a 428 (3.98" stroke)
As for a build, people might get excited to hear they have a 390 GT, but so what. The engine was a turd in 1967 and still is.
Beyond knowing the stroke, it matters as much what pistons and cam were installed and the only way to know that is to starting pulling parts like the valve covers to check cam lift, or pulling cylinder heads to check pistons.
If your block has a casting number it will be on the passenger side of the block up near the front.
The cylinder heads have the casting number between the center spark plugs.
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As for a build, people might get excited to hear they have a 390 GT, but so what. The engine was a turd in 1967 and still is.
Beyond knowing the stroke, it matters as much what pistons and cam were installed and the only way to know that is to starting pulling parts like the valve covers to check cam lift, or pulling cylinder heads to check pistons.
If your block has a casting number it will be on the passenger side of the block up near the front.
The cylinder heads have the casting number between the center spark plugs.
Josh
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It won't tell you the build, but it will help narrow down if you have a 352/360 (3.50" stroke) a 390 (3.78" stroke) or possibly a 428 (3.98" stroke)
As for a build, people might get excited to hear they have a 390 GT, but so what. The engine was a turd in 1967 and still is.
Beyond knowing the stroke, it matters as much what pistons and cam were installed and the only way to know that is to starting pulling parts like the valve covers to check cam lift, or pulling cylinder heads to check pistons.
If your block has a casting number it will be on the passenger side of the block up near the front.
The cylinder heads have the casting number between the center spark plugs.
Josh
As for a build, people might get excited to hear they have a 390 GT, but so what. The engine was a turd in 1967 and still is.
Beyond knowing the stroke, it matters as much what pistons and cam were installed and the only way to know that is to starting pulling parts like the valve covers to check cam lift, or pulling cylinder heads to check pistons.
If your block has a casting number it will be on the passenger side of the block up near the front.
The cylinder heads have the casting number between the center spark plugs.
Josh
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It won't tell you the build, but it will help narrow down if you have a 352/360 (3.50" stroke) a 390 (3.78" stroke) or possibly a 428 (3.98" stroke)
As for a build, people might get excited to hear they have a 390 GT, but so what. The engine was a turd in 1967 and still is.
Beyond knowing the stroke, it matters as much what pistons and cam were installed and the only way to know that is to starting pulling parts like the valve covers to check cam lift, or pulling cylinder heads to check pistons.
If your block has a casting number it will be on the passenger side of the block up near the front.
The cylinder heads have the casting number between the center spark plugs.
Josh
As for a build, people might get excited to hear they have a 390 GT, but so what. The engine was a turd in 1967 and still is.
Beyond knowing the stroke, it matters as much what pistons and cam were installed and the only way to know that is to starting pulling parts like the valve covers to check cam lift, or pulling cylinder heads to check pistons.
If your block has a casting number it will be on the passenger side of the block up near the front.
The cylinder heads have the casting number between the center spark plugs.
Josh
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Alright, I have finally measured the stroke of the motor. It was 3 and 7/8th inches . At one point I thought it was almost 4 inches but I may have not been as accurate on that. Very difficult to get it so close IMO. Definitely not a 360(happy about that), most likely a 390, but could be a 460 with that reading. HOW DO I now tell the difference between the 390 and the 460. By eyesight is the 460 that much bigger than the 390 or is there another way to tell?
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By the way the casting numbers I have found on the block are 2D22 with a M under it which I think means its a 390, and the heads are D2TEAA, which is a 1972 motor I think with standard truck heads. But the reading for the stroke may be closer to a 460 than 390. How do I know for sure???
3.78" stroke = 390.
D2TE heads = 1972/76 F100/350 360/390.
The larger t/stat was only used thru 1966.
FE engines have 5 valve cover bolt holes per side.
1958/64 FE engines have rounded valve covers with no holes for oil caps/smog valves.
These engines have an oil fill tube.
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2D22 = Block cast on April (D) 22, 1972 (2) or possibly 1962 (2).
3.78" stroke = 390.
D2TE heads = 1972/76 F100/350 360/390.
The larger t/stat was only used thru 1966.
FE engines have 5 valve cover bolt holes per side.
1958/64 FE engines have rounded valve covers with no holes for oil caps/smog valves.
These engines have an oil fill tube.
3.78" stroke = 390.
D2TE heads = 1972/76 F100/350 360/390.
The larger t/stat was only used thru 1966.
FE engines have 5 valve cover bolt holes per side.
1958/64 FE engines have rounded valve covers with no holes for oil caps/smog valves.
These engines have an oil fill tube.
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By the way the casting numbers I have found on the block are 2D22 with a M under it which I think means its a 390, and the heads are D2TEAA, which is a 1972 motor I think with standard truck heads. But the reading for the stroke may be closer to a 460 than 390. How do I know for sure???
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