Is this true
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number dummy could probably tell us alot about this, someone throw him a message and ask his two cents!
oh NUMBERDUMMY!!!!!
and here is my 2 cents, the greatest part about our trucks is that they're tough, Cheap to build and maintain, easy(ish) to work on, and parts are absloutely everywhere! this truck is a pretty cool rig but damn!!!! do you know what i could do to just about ANY decent F350 with 4 grand? thats the great thing about fords, we can actually afford to build them and when the weather goes to **** we can still 'drive it like we stole it' the only way to drive real muscle
oh NUMBERDUMMY!!!!!
and here is my 2 cents, the greatest part about our trucks is that they're tough, Cheap to build and maintain, easy(ish) to work on, and parts are absloutely everywhere! this truck is a pretty cool rig but damn!!!! do you know what i could do to just about ANY decent F350 with 4 grand? thats the great thing about fords, we can actually afford to build them and when the weather goes to **** we can still 'drive it like we stole it' the only way to drive real muscle
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There seems to be a rash of rare overpriced trucks, remember this one?
Ford : F-250:eBay Motors (item 150401315490 end time Jan-08-10 20:02:38 PST)
Ford : F-250:eBay Motors (item 150401315490 end time Jan-08-10 20:02:38 PST)
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Hmmm Recent Repaint?I have a feeling there's a fair amount of peel and fade under that new paint.I recently picked up a beautiful interior out of a truck that was ugly as sin,but with a fresh coat of paint coulda been passed off as a show truck.No way anybody smart would pay 8K for it.I would give him $50 for those door panels though.
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Me, too; ask him to post a pic of the Safety Certification label on the driver's
side door jamb.
Certainly, NumberDummy, F-150-Explorer, people who worked at the factory,
those people are more authoritative than me. But, the way I see it, he's tryin' to
blow smoke up your ***...
True, the VIN doesn't reveal much, but it's better than not having it; the VIN
says he's got an M-block 400 cid, gasoline-powered engine.
Who are they, and how come none of us have ever heard of such a thing
before? I call BS; ask him to provide verifiable proof of this thing.
False.
True.
False.
I know it had many marine uses as well as other, stationary applications
(where it was mounted on the floor and powered certain industrial equipment).
It was also used in the light & medium-duty trucks.
I think he's pushing it when claiming use in the vehicles he gave as examples;
I've never seen gasoline-powered garbage or cement trucks before, and I was 19yo in
1982, old enough to be cognizant of stuff like that.
Hearsay, and meaningless.
Could be construed as at least partially true if he's comparing his plush &
luxurious (for the time) interior with fleet vehicles sold as work trucks that
didn't have radios or carpet.
So?
Did they even make F350 duallies for MY1982? I'm not so sure dually F350s
even existed for standard, consumer-oriented pickups.
One of the best sources I've come across for the M-block engine is Dave Resch,
he even authored an article here on FTE. He used to run his own site but he
seems to have fallen off the planet; luckily, most of his site has been archived.
FordMuscle has also had some good info on that engine, as well as Hot Rod Magazine.
Nowhere have I heard of what "they" call a 401-477 cid engine; I can maybe
ask my engine builder guy next time I see him, see if he knows anything about
it (if I can remember to do it).
Ask for a pic of the door jamb sticker.
Links to support my claims:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/article/idx/14/104/article/High_Performance_Options_for_the_351M400_Engine.ht ml
Building a Ford 351M, 400, or Cleveland Motor
400 Ford: Peformance From Another Aftermarket
http://web.archive.org/web/20071226163505/home.earthlink.net/~bubbaf250/index.html
side door jamb.
Certainly, NumberDummy, F-150-Explorer, people who worked at the factory,
those people are more authoritative than me. But, the way I see it, he's tryin' to
blow smoke up your ***...
The vin number doesn't show this tuck with all the extras.
says he's got an M-block 400 cid, gasoline-powered engine.
The engine is 6.6L but is a what they call a 401-477 cu. in
before? I call BS; ask him to provide verifiable proof of this thing.
this engine only appeared in medium and heavy-duty trucks of the time
and were large, heavy, low speed, high torque.
This engine were never designed as automobile engines
were commonly found in large, industrial use vehicles including dump trucks,garbage trucks ,cement trucks, buses.
(where it was mounted on the floor and powered certain industrial equipment).
It was also used in the light & medium-duty trucks.
I think he's pushing it when claiming use in the vehicles he gave as examples;
I've never seen gasoline-powered garbage or cement trucks before, and I was 19yo in
1982, old enough to be cognizant of stuff like that.
Any one that has towed with this truck has always said they never seen a stock truck with this much pulling power.
Extras on this truck are not found on most trucks this year.. Truck also has clock and date over the radio.
luxurious (for the time) interior with fleet vehicles sold as work trucks that
didn't have radios or carpet.
remember this is a one ton F-350 single wheel
Did they even make F350 duallies for MY1982? I'm not so sure dually F350s
even existed for standard, consumer-oriented pickups.
One of the best sources I've come across for the M-block engine is Dave Resch,
he even authored an article here on FTE. He used to run his own site but he
seems to have fallen off the planet; luckily, most of his site has been archived.
FordMuscle has also had some good info on that engine, as well as Hot Rod Magazine.
Nowhere have I heard of what "they" call a 401-477 cid engine; I can maybe
ask my engine builder guy next time I see him, see if he knows anything about
it (if I can remember to do it).
Ask for a pic of the door jamb sticker.
Links to support my claims:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/article/idx/14/104/article/High_Performance_Options_for_the_351M400_Engine.ht ml
Building a Ford 351M, 400, or Cleveland Motor
400 Ford: Peformance From Another Aftermarket
http://web.archive.org/web/20071226163505/home.earthlink.net/~bubbaf250/index.html
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Even painted-over rust would look good in a picture from a distance...
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There was also a Black Heavy Duty Vinyl seat as optional on the years we are dealing with here 1980-1986.
Either one could be ordered I will admit.
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The clock was an option avaliable on all of them. 1980-1986. Nothing special about it. It was even avaliable on the base models.
I can install one in less than five minutes...
Now if it had electric mirrors, the CB Radio, Fog Lamps etc... then we are getting more rare options...
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I also own an ultra rare 1982 F350 4x4 single wheel vin# 2FTJF36Z1CCA66564 that i'd take $7999 for. It came with the 400 with an NP435, BW1345 transfercase, Dana 50 TTB front and Dana 61 rear with 4.10 gears, 9.50-16.5 tires. The only options i can see though are the A/C and sliding rear window. Maybe mine is more rare cause it was built in canada so better bump the price to $10,000.
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I call Bull! I bet he is mistaken and has the ultra super duper extra rare 534 in there with a Fuller RTO 12513 to a Rockwell case splitting power to a pair of Rockwell axles regeared for street use. It also has the double frame option and stainless steel body all wrapped up in a street legal package made to look like the other trucks. On top of it, I bet it came with the Ford 30 year warranty.
Otherwise, I bet it is a 400, C6, NP208. Everybody else with one, raise your hand.
By the way, I thought High/Tall boys were from the previous generations.
Otherwise, I bet it is a 400, C6, NP208. Everybody else with one, raise your hand.
By the way, I thought High/Tall boys were from the previous generations.
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Yes, Styleside F-350 duallies began in 1980. 133wb"
Styleside F-350 single rears have been around since '57.
F-3 / F-350 single rears with flareside beds since '48/'79.
F-350 single rear 4x4's have been around since '79.
F-3 or F-350 Chassis cab duallies been around since '48.
etc... all avaliable for the private consumer.
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The county bought one new In 1981. 1981 F-350 4x4 with a 400m.
It blew so they put a 460 in it's place. Used for plow work.
It was a Ranger XLT as well...
how rare is that with it in Federal safety orange? and a billion miles on the clock?
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As I typed the response above, Numberdummy sent me an answer to a PM I sent. This is his response:
The ad says long bed, and that's what the pics show.
This truck is rare...today, but it was not that rare when new. 29,000 F350's were sold in 1982 (a recession year).
Of those, 9.9% had 4WD, 1.3% had an 8 track, 1.5% were Lariat's, 2.1% had power windows, 8.7% had cruise control, 1.9% had power door locks, and etc.
Even though some of these percentages are low, this is not the only truck that was equipped like this....as the seller claims.
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The ad says long bed, and that's what the pics show.
This truck is rare...today, but it was not that rare when new. 29,000 F350's were sold in 1982 (a recession year).
Of those, 9.9% had 4WD, 1.3% had an 8 track, 1.5% were Lariat's, 2.1% had power windows, 8.7% had cruise control, 1.9% had power door locks, and etc.
Even though some of these percentages are low, this is not the only truck that was equipped like this....as the seller claims.
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1FTJF36Z7CUA22780
1FT = FoMoCo USA-Complete Vehicle
J = 9,001-10,000 Gross Vehicle Weight Rating
F36 = F350 4WD Pickup
Z = 6.6L (400 2V) / 400: VIN engine code Z was used 1980/82, VIN engine code S was used 1971/79.
7 = Check digit, FoMoCo use only.
C = 1982
U = Louisville KY Assembly Plant
A22780 = Numerical Sequence of Assembly (Serial Number)
Info source: 1980/89 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog
1980: First year Ford offered an F350 Styleside P/U with DRW (Dual Rear Wheels).
Originally Posted by from sellers response to email
The engine is a 6.6 but what is a they call a 401-477
Where oh where did you come up with this CACA del TORO? 401 & 477 engines were installed in F700 and larger trucks.
How many F500 or larger trucks came with a 400? N-O-N-E = NONE.
400: 1971/79 Passenger Cars / 1977/79 F100/350's / 1978/82 Bronco's / 1980/82 F150/350's & Econolines.
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I'm interested in this variable-displacement engine, the 6.6L-to-7.8L (401-to-477 cid) engine.
Go to any auto parts store or speed shop and ask for a replacement carburetor for it, see
what kind of response you get.
The thing that comes to mind is the Cadillac V8-6-4 engine from around the same era
(shortly after the Arab Oil Embargo of the 1970s), their failed attempt at getting better gas
mileage from a land yacht.
Go to any auto parts store or speed shop and ask for a replacement carburetor for it, see
what kind of response you get.
The thing that comes to mind is the Cadillac V8-6-4 engine from around the same era
(shortly after the Arab Oil Embargo of the 1970s), their failed attempt at getting better gas
mileage from a land yacht.