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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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yeah its warmed up to18 deg outside with a 10-15 mph wind blowing. so yeah it was cold when I checked the fan blades.
I thought of boots, but if I romped on it that would make it worst, the lack of power is just on start up rolling off a stop type of thing.

the sound is at all speeds till I romp on it.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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Have you tried un plugging the EBPV?
 
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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I already have a EBPV delete (pedistal) when I replaced my turbo.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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but if it spins by hand both ways when motor is off, can it still be the clutch fan?
Yes it can. I had a clutch fan fail on my '89 Toyota pickup that I once owned and it would turn and move just fine but it wasn't engaging at the right time. That one had to get REALLY hot before it engaged. I replaced it and all was well. You can easily pull one from a junk yard if you think that might be it, but with it being so cold, unless your radiator is for some reason hot then it shouldn't be engaging unless the clutch is to cold. If it is to cold it'll engage until the fluids inside the clutch warm up and the clutch loosens up, but once driving around for a bit with a warm motor it shouldn't do it any longer.

Mine on my truck (F250) will only spin when it's really cold and I didn't give the truck much time to warm up or when the engine is real hot. The rest of the time it's idling and putting no resistance on the engine.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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fan clutches and waterpumps......can do some strange things. I have lost 2 waterpumps on my truck and have never had a drop of coolant from the weep hole. The only indicators I had that there was an issue was a whining noise intermittantly and fan clutch operating way to much, and at odd times. The motor was not too hot, (I have a coolant filter and remote temp sensor) but I think the bearing failing in the waterpump was creating some kind of harmonic or generating enough heat to actually engage the fan clutch. both time's to diagnoise all I had to do was grab the fan and wiggle it back and forth while watching the fan pully. If the fan pully moves at all fan clutch bearing is going going gone, and like I said before never any coolant from the weep hole. Failed waterpump was also confirmed when I changed it out by the physical evidence of the impeller slowley but surely wearing in to the pump houseing.

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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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fan clutches and waterpumps......can do some strange things. I have lost 2 waterpumps on my truck and have never had a drop of coolant from the weep hole. The only indicators I had that there was an issue was a whining noise intermittantly and fan clutch operating way to much, and at odd times. The motor was not too hot, (I have a coolant filter and remote temp sensor) but I think the bearing failing in the waterpump was creating some kind of harmonic or generating enough heat to actually engage the fan clutch. both time's to diagnoise all I had to do was grab the fan and wiggle it back and forth while watching the fan pully. If the fan pully moves at all fan clutch bearing is going going gone, and like I said before never any coolant from the weep hole. Failed waterpump was also confirmed when I changed it out by the physical evidence of the impeller slowley but surely wearing in to the pump houseing.

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Well that's just scary, but good FYI, thanks!
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:40 AM
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I've replace a LOT of water pumps that were making a ton of noise and not leaking a drop.
Bearing failure, but the seal is still OK.
 
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