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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 11:59 PM
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Holiver31, truck sounds pretty good, and thanks for that. Gives me more of an idea of what it sounds like. The only thing I hate about videos, lol, is that they sound a lot quieter, at least that's what it seems like. So with how loud it is on the video, more than likely it is much louder in person.

There is one video I found on YouTube of a Cutlass I believe it was, gonna see if I can find it real quick... Ok, I got it.

YouTube - Cammed Cutlass --- Long Tubes -- X-pipe -- Bullets.wmv

If you have a spare 26 seconds and a decent internet connection, listen to that. I LOVE IT!

That's my favorite exhaust video I've found on YouTube so far, and it is the Dynomax Bullets. I'm not done searching yet, but so far that's my favorite. I do have one question about the bullets if anyone knows about them at all.

I have 2.5" piping, and the Bullets I've looked at are 2 1/2" and 3". What is the difference with the length? Like the 3" I was looking at is about 23" and the 2 1/2" was like 16" or something, and I think some get even shorter. Just wondering what the difference would be if anyone knows.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 12:12 AM
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Just found another vid that sounds pretty good and it's a '71 with a 302 and Magnaflows.

YouTube - 1971 Ford F-100 302 with Magnaflow exhaust

Why is this so hard to choose? Lol, and don't worry, I will have something picked out by Friday, because that's when I'm ordering my mufflers. I just gotta try and figure out what I want by then, lol.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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I can see that with mufflers that contain fiberglass matting, but the Summit mufflers do not have that. Neither did the Dynomax mufflers I had back in the day.

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Yeah mine are about 2 feet long and all steel inside. You can get them with expanded metal slits to the inside or to the outside. My installer is a guy I have known since the 70's and we talked about how to get a real nice retro sound out of my system. We picked a stainless steel pack bullet with louvers in. 1 size bigger than we needed for less restriction. The louvers normally open to the exit but we turned them around and faced the louvers toward the flow. Sound great. Low pitch, throaty and the H pipe keeps the tune perfect. Had some droneing but I fattned up the idle and the droneing went away. They burned in quickly (500 miles) and now the tone should stay the same for the life of the system. On the highway I can't even hear them but in town I roll the window down and just listen to them. If that is all I get out of this truck it will have been worth it.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 04:38 PM
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do you guys think higher compression will make an engine noticably louder.

im going from 8.0:1 to 10:1
 
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by crescentwrencher
do you guys think higher compression will make an engine noticably louder.

im going from 8.0:1 to 10:1
It makes a little bit of a difference, but not much. Although it is more notiecable if you drive the truck in the winter time, with huge plumes of vapor for higher compression engines, instead of the little whisps like an 8:1 engine. Reminds me of a steam locomotive.

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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by crescentwrencher
do you guys think higher compression will make an engine noticably louder.

im going from 8.0:1 to 10:1
IMHO no. I've ran 8.1 to 12.5 compression in SBC engines and the sound "noise" was more based on exhaust type and cam selection. (cam being that cool loepety lope sound) As far as the steam comment, I've never paid attention, other than the force of the exhaust is more pronounced in a built engine than a stock engine. HMM, I'm waiting on a cold morning now.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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[QUOTE=Bullitt390;8196927]I can see that with mufflers that contain fiberglass matting, but the Summit mufflers do not have that. Neither did the Dynomax mufflers I had back in the day.

This is a true statement, and K has agreed with you. I did state "cheap" in my original post. I should have stated fiberglass matted. On the other hand, "glass pack" should be a clue to someone. Boy, a tough crowd here. I must admit, "cheap" is subjective. If one pay's $30.00 for a muffler, what should one expect? The flowmasters on my truck cost a little bit more, but 6 years later, they sound the same. To be perfectly honest, adding quality headers recently did not noticibly change the exhaust sound.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Riderman
This is a true statement, and K has agreed with you. I did state "cheap" in my original post. I should have stated fiberglass matted. On the other hand, "glass pack" should be a clue to someone. Boy, a tough crowd here. I must admit, "cheap" is subjective. If one pay's $30.00 for a muffler, what should one expect? The flowmasters on my truck cost a little bit more, but 6 years later, they sound the same. To be perfectly honest, adding quality headers recently did not noticibly change the exhaust sound.
Not sure what you are saying...

The dynomax's I had did NOT contain matting and sounded the same day 1 as they did 9 years later. The Flowmasters, as everyone is saying, sounded the same for 8 years... I expect the same for my $20 Summit brand turbo mufflers.

The ORIGINAL poster wanted all opinions... and I gave mine.

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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 11:13 PM
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Lol, I'm not trying to get into a debate over who is right and who is wrong or what product does this and what does that, I'm just looking for a good aggressive and loud muffler and what people prefer and why. That kinda stuff. Not trying to get into any arguments.

As for the whole debate we've got going here, lol, I think we can all agree that the glass packs are loud and get burnt out and basically become a straight pipe if I'm correct on that one, and the mufflers with steel packing don't get burnt out. Price doesn't really become proof for saying this one brand won't burn out because it cost more than a cheap summit brand. Just the fact that one is fiberglass packing and the other is steel.

At least that's basically what I'm getting so far, lol. And yes, I am pretty much just asking for opinions on who likes what muffler for the sound and any descriptions of why they like that one in particular. That kinda thing. So thank you to everyone so far for all the opinions coming in, and like I said, I'm not trying to get in a debate over who is right and who is wrong, lol, all personal opinion.

BTW, does anyone know what the difference would be in the Dynomax Bullet mufflers with how long they are? Like a 23" compared to a 16".
 
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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The Flowmasters..
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Dont you mean Dronemasters? I personally can't stand the sound of those things. Most vehicles you don't even hear the ACTUAL exhaust when you use those, they just dddddrrrroooonnnneeee. Now to the OP, glasspacks or nothing! They aren't expensive so if you decide you don't like'em take them off.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 11:36 PM
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Lol, I love the drone personally. I think I like it because it annoys other people. My dad has a 2006 Dodge 2500 turbo diesel, 5 inch exhaust all the way, thing has quite a drone. I love finding that loud flat tone and getting the exhaust pipe right next to some guy's rolled down window and holding it there. I enjoy annoying other people with loud exhaust, and if that's the way to do it, works for me. Also does wonders for setting off car alarms, lol.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Holiver31
Dont you mean Dronemasters? I personally can't stand the sound of those things.

Whole heartedly agree, I couldn't stand them even though I ended up keeping them for so long.

I honestly feel Flowmasters remind me of Chevys. Whenever I hear that "drone" sound, I instantly know it's a Chevy with Flowmasters.

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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ddh1
Also does wonders for setting off car alarms, lol.
You can still annoy people with a decent sounding exhaust, and set off car alarms.
In my vid I wasn't over half throttle, I can set off a car alarm pretty easy.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 11:50 PM
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Ya, that's true. Well, I had a '99 F150 with flowmasters, and an 02 mustang with flowmasters, didn't seem to bother me. I did enjoy the drone though. Something about that annoyingly flat but loud noise, lol. I was going to give you an analogy, but I can't think of how to word it or if what I was thinking of even works, so therefore, I say screw that. But ya, the flowmaster drone doesn't bother me. Friend has a 96 forest service dodge 1500 with super 40s, thing is loud as hell and pisses a lot of people off around here. Sounds good I think.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 04:29 AM
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ok. i am a very late comer to this thread. i wish i had been paying attention so i could offer some advice and a little info about exhaust acoustics. personally, i believe there is no other exhaust than cherry bomb. i have two 22" long, 2 inch tube cherry glasspacks on my 91 (its my daily driver, and its the one ive done something with the exhaust on). ok. smaller pipes and mufflers will give you a higher, raspier sound. big open pipes and mufflers will give you a lower throatier sound. think a trumpet vs. a tuba. now with glasspacks, length is a direct relation to how loud or quiet it will be. the longer it is, the more packing there is inside of it, and the more sound is adsorbed. shorter, obviously is the vice versa. now what ive done on my truck is kind of a big/small combo. i have the original manifolds, and some of the stock piping that comes off of it for my 460. then i cut everything off from just in front of the cat. i cut just far enough ahead to make true duals, and welded some 2 1/4" pipe to the original. the 2" pipe on my cherries fit snugly inside this pipe and is clamped in. then i ran more pipe behind the cherries and the exhaust kicks out in front of both back tires. now, i dont like the idea of the really high raspiness that i was sure to get out of such small pipes. so i used 4" pipe to make 10" long tips. now one would think that was pointless. wrong. the larger tip allows the exhaust gas to expand and create a lower tone. so, what i wound up with was an excellent mix of the raspy racing sound and a low throaty muscle sound. and it is loud. loud enough that i have been pulled over because the cop thought i was running strait pipes... more than enough to set off alarms. and yet, when at an idle, it just produces this low throaty growl that is entirely unintrusive. you have patience before you buy (and again, i strongly recommend something from cherry bomb. they have the best flow and sound. flow is a proven fact, and sound, well of course thats an opinion, but its one that was and is going strong for several decades now.), i will post a video of my trucks exhaust, showing you how i did it, and, of course, how it sounds around 1:00 p.m. central time, today.
 
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