Which kit did you end up with? And did you ask the place you purchased from about your wiring question?

 

The place I purchased it from was closed because it was sunday. I went a head and installed it and here is my opinion on it.

1) Kit was a 6k Bi-xenon digital slim with 2 ballast and the magnetic moving 9007 bulbs that retract or move out when you select high beams. The kit also included a relay harness which was easy to install and all connections had the waterproof gromets which should hold up well.

2) You might find this hard to believe but the amount of light did not seem much better than the silvania ultra stars I had in there, call me crazy.

3) The high and low beam seams reversed. when I select high, the beam drops down and gets a little dimmer. This will drive me crazy!

4) I had to cut the round bulb locks that secure the bulbs in half just to get these mechanical style bulbs to work.

Honestly, I am not impressed at all and wouldnt have bought them if I had to do it again. The stock 2002 headlamps are part of the problem I know and this mechanical style bulb is also a pain due to the mods that have to be made. I will probably remove this kit and see what parts I can use for my KTM 300 light and light force lights or something. Just my .02

 

Maybe this will help;

It's a bad picture as I took it with my camera, through my TINTED front windshield. Yes, my front window is tinted with 50% tint, and one reason I opted for HID long ago. So the camera is a bit blurry, and the pictures don't do justice for depth or "throw" of the HID. Also, they are of 6000K, which I don't prefer... but you'll get the idea;

H13 Dual HID
(low beams and high beams, with low beams still on during high beam via Diode install);


It also helps to show how low I adjust my low beams, to keep the glare down and not blind oncoming vehicles. There's not too much stray light, and even though a projector headlamp does have a defined cut off you'll see it's not necessary to achieve great HID... lots of light, and no ill effects to oncoming drivers. Like I mentioned, I've never been high beamed due to HID "Glare". I'd have to say it's a choice each owner has to make on their own.



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Hi guys - great thread - thanks for the information so far. I've got a 2000 F250SD that I'd like to retrofit with HID. I think I've gleaned from your earlier information that its best to install a new headlight assembly such as this:

1999-2004 FORD F250 F350 HEADLIGHTS+HID 2000 2001 2002 : eBay Motors (item 310195044687 end time Jan-23-10 21:35:21 PST)

because the OEM Halogen headlight assemblies cause wild reflective issues with the HID lamps.
Note: I believe the above link has conventional halogen for high-beam, correct?

Then install a lower K value bulb so that you don't get the ridiculous blue light that doesn't perform correctly.

Would my understanding be correct?

Thanks in advance for the help.

Kevin

 

(my opinion is...)

1- using the aftermarket projector style lenses... is an expensive, and painstaking way to put in HID. (See Brad's install post - he opted for new HID equip on top of his headlight cost, and still had to space the bulbs, rewire...etc.etc.) That is unless your stock headlights are damaged beyond repair, and your going to replace them anyway. If I was a DIYer, I'd then go "projector" route. If not, an OEM replacement is more than adequate.

2- See my latest post with low beam and high beam output picture (not the best, but gives you an idea), and you can tell there's not a whole lot of glare. Not too bad of a cost to "upgrade" to HID as well, being minimal items are needed. As no, they do not produce "wild reflective issues".

3- Lower Kelvin bulbs, are closer to stock Halogen color (warmer). 4300K is what I use on a normal basis. Anything whiter (5500-6000K), or bluer (6000-8000K), and there's less output (lumens) and more eye strain.

I do however know, there are differences in bulb quality. That's the biggest problem of buying HID, and knowing which is the best mate to the headlight. I see too many people using the low quality bulb (both HID pellets side by side), or some poor matched item, and getting poor results. Which in turn, gives OEM headlights coupled with HID... a bad rap. Or the installer doesn't know what he's bought, how to adjust, or what the final product should look like. So he knows no different. I've removed many of "those types" and helped them find a better fit. In reality, a good bulb... and a well adjusted headlight, can offer great results.

 

Hi Johnny

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm a little unsure here - when I looked at your pic of your 01 Excursion, it looked like you had a projector style headlight assembly housing the bulbs? Here's what a 2000 Ford headlight assembly looks like:



Are you saying that it would be acceptable to place the HID conversion bulb into that assembly (wiring in the ballasts, etc)? If so, I guess that's quite simple! The 2000 takes a 9007 bulb, so I'm assuming I need a hi/low beam or Bi-Xenon bulb? Do you sell the kits with a 9007 bulb? I would like to avoid the quality mistakes everyone talks about, but no brand names are listed as preferred.

Thanks for you help already - it is much appreciated.

 

That 2000 Ex I had... had CRAPPY aftermarket headlights that I tore out faster than I put in. I ended up trading that vehicle in (on my current '05), with stock headlights and gave away the aftermarket.

I've just installed a set of 9007 Bi-Xenon Dual HIDs in my buddies older F350 with your same lights. We took a bit of Meguairs Headlight Restore to them, made them look like new... and he was MORE than happy with his HIDs. In fact, he had great light output (especially when low AND high beams were on), and little to no glare or reflective issues once we adjusted them down a bit. He loved'em.

PM me if you'd like more info

 

Hey everyone,

I am new to the forums and I had a few questions regarding these new H13 6000k Bi-Xenon lights I just installed in my 2006 Eddie Bauer. I have two questions regarding my install.

1. The Bulb positioning

I was told to have the bulb positioned a certain way in the headlight housing. Is this correct? Please refer to the image below for verification purposes.



2. Hi/Lo Feature

I hooked up everything correctly and have a slight issue when switching into high beams. I noticed that when I have the car off and switch the lights on & then into "High Beams" they work perfectly fine.

The funny things is when I start the car and turn the lights on the low beams are fine. But when I switch on the high beams there is a slight buzzing sound coming from the driver side or Ballast.

Now I called the company and they told me to try and switch the ballast around. I did exactly that and the same thing, nothing changed.

I also noticed that the on-board indicator is trying to find the "Left & Right Lamps" as well as the High & Low Beams. Is this a reason for that sound that I am hearing?

I just don't know what else it could possibly be. Is it the relay or something from the stock setting trying to find the original headlights. Or is this a normal sound when switching the BI-Xenon bulbs from "Low to High"

I am driving myself nuts with this project. It seems the lights are shinning wide instead of ahead and straight. They are also shinning up a bit. Can anyone help me please. Let me know if this is a waste of time or is there something that can be done.

I hope someone could explain what this might be.

Thank you all for your time.

 

Well... first, it sounds like you bought a "flex" bulb... and not something I'd recommend, whatsoever for HID in a truck.

But that picture, is not an H13. Nor is it Bi-Xenon, or DUAL Hid. Which is what a proper H13 would be.
Nor... would you have the ability to align the bulb as you wish. It's "Keyed" to the socket in the truck. So right off... I'm a bit perplexed.

(If it is a Flex type bulb)
I've removed a few, but don't have much knowledge of installing them.
I'm surprised the place you bought them from, isn't much of help... or, should that not be a surprise?! haha... anyway...

You do have only ONE ballast per side, right?

 

Hi Johnny,

I appreciate your response. The bulb I have pictured in my msg was just a general bulb not the exact one I have. They are similar in style but that's about it.

I am mostly having problems adjusting my lights. I was told that there were adjustment screws that I can turn "left to right" and "Up and down"

As of right now my lights pretty much light up more of the sidewalks and they are also shinning pretty high. I haven't adjusted them one bit as I thought they would be perfectly aligned from when I had the halogen bulbs in.

Can you explain what needs to be done and if there is an adjustment screw where the hell is it ...lol

 

You should be able to insert the bulb so that it lines up with the factory tabs for starters.

Second, what type of Bi-Xenon did you go with? The Dual bulb type or the single bulb type that pulls back when you turn the high beams on.

In regards to the 'glare' that your seeing, you can adjust the lights down a bit, but this is ultimately the downside of trying to use an HID bulb in a factory headlight.

Will they work, sure, I've done several myself, are you going to get random glare all over the place, yep, due to the fact that the factory housing was never designed for a light that bright.

Trust me here, take some time and play with it and see if you can improve your results some. You're never going to get them to be 100% like Factory Projector's are, but you may be able to get a good light output that isn't too bad that you can live with.

In regards to your buzzing, most all ballasts have some buzzing to them, but it would help to know what kind of light you have, the dual bulb or the single, retractable bulb.

This is why I always tell people that are going to put HID's into a factory housing, go with an inexpensive kit. That way, if you don't like them your not out much.

Contrary to popular belief, just because something costs more, doesn't mean it's 'always' going to work better.

I have a friend that is a wholesaler and I can show you kits that are for sale on the Internet for $200+ that literally cost $25 to purchase.

I just ordered some new lights that I'm planning on 'playing with'. I can get Grade A quality bulbs and Ballasts for $24.50 (single beam) and $38.50 (Bi-Xenon) retractable bulbs.

Each come with an 18 month warranty as well.

These kits that you see advertised from Phillips and others, are made in China, just the same as all the others.

Don't take my word for it, contact Phillips and ask them if they manufacture or sell aftermarket HID kits and see what they tell you.

If you'd like to see the actual proof of the company that has the license to market and sell these kits, PM me and I'll show you.

 

The type bulbs I have are the BI-Xenon retractable bulbs. When you hit the Hi-beams they move. As for the buzzing sound I think it is the relay device. I will have them replace that.

As for the actual adjustment would you happen to know where that might be?

 

The only possible thing I seen was 1 screw sticking out the back of the headlight enclosure. It was a hex type screw and to me it didn't look like it did much. could this be what I need to turn?

 

I'll take some Bi-Xenon kits to play with for $38.50 - where do I send the money?? PM me, or let me know....
And $25 for single beam kits?? Again, I'll take some H10s to play with. Get a hold of me. And we'll talk.
... I've got several projects where I can use these... to "play with".

And about the Phillips comment... They sure are;

 

Just sent you a PM on these...