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Post Fiend
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From: Neenah, Wisconsin
but we haven't.....tell me exactly where you're going to cut out 1500 lbs....thats the whole drivetrain worth of weight.....where's it going to come from....even if you cut down in size...now its a ranger.....stop just spewing cut 1500 lbs...and tell us where its coming from
Posting Guru
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Yeah but can the outback be loaded with rocks and ballast?? I Need want a truck to be safe for me and my familey and i also want to be able to use it in bad weather or for getting to the mountain for ski/sowboarding. I also want it to tow my work trailer and be able to carry a heavy load. The truck fits my needs perfect just as it does hundreds of thousands of other people. In the end the trucks weight what they weight and im happy that they are built like they are. If you want a tinfoil truck then your out off luck because the ford is built tuff.
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but we haven't.....tell me exactly where you're going to cut out 1500 lbs....thats the whole drivetrain worth of weight.....where's it going to come from....even if you cut down in size...now its a ranger.....stop just spewing cut 1500 lbs...and tell us where its coming from
Well perhaps they could start by building the chassis from carbon fiber. Then maybe they could make the suspension and drivetrain from magnesium alloy and titanium. Then they could make the body panels from Carbon fiber also. We could also have ceramic brakes fitted. The interior can be stripped right out and the seats can be carbon-kevlar. The windows can be replaced with polycarbonate instead of glass. That should get us down about 1000+lbs for only about $300k ontop of the standard price
Elder User
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Also, consider it's a matter of physics that's hard to get away with in a pickup. Big heavy frame, trans and motor, some 4x4 goodies. Relatively small area of roof and cab, so without making it overly top heavy, I guess the new 09 with the new cage is a definite improvement but again, how it actually plays out will have to be seen. In the mean time duck, if you're goin' over. Not really funny, but what choice do we have. There's an interesting thread on the 85-96 forum about rebuid of project flairside, poor kid went over, roof collapsed, he's lucky to be talkin' about it.
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The thing is no matter what Ford do some people wont be happy. If they made it light weight and zero comfort, Then we would have people moaning that they are to basic. If they had more power then we would have people moaning they drink to much fuel. You cant please everyone. But they have covered most bases.
Fleet Owner
Joined: Mar 2003
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From: Blue Hill Township
Well perhaps they could start by building the chassis from carbon fiber. Then maybe they could make the suspension and drivetrain from magnesium alloy and titanium. Then they could make the body panels from Carbon fiber also. We could also have ceramic brakes fitted. The interior can be stripped right out and the seats can be carbon-kevlar. The windows can be replaced with polycarbonate instead of glass. That should get us down about 1000+lbs for only about $300k ontop of the standard price
Fleet Owner
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From: Blue Hill Township
The F-250 is a 3/4 ton, sorry to break it to you. The F-150 is far from a 1/2 ton.
Cargo Master
Joined: Nov 2003
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From: Duluth, Mn.
With todays technology they could make a perfectly comfortable 1/2 ton truck that wouldn't weigh 5K lbs.
You might have to give up a few creature comforts. But You'd gain throttle response, and fuel mileage.
You might have to give up a few creature comforts. But You'd gain throttle response, and fuel mileage.
Fleet Owner
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From: Blue Hill Township
Again, you are grasping here. Where exactly and how exactly will they do this?
Cargo Master
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From: Duluth, Mn.
There are examples of lightweight production all over the place. It's the future of Automobile design.
When the new GREEN PARTY and GREEN PUSH come, Ford better be ready.
They've already stated one of the main priorities is going to be getting over foreign oil dependency. How do You think they're going to pull that off?
Lighter weight, higher performance, more efficient engines, alternative fuels, electric.