It was already taken care of. No one "got away with it." Let's move on.

 

Apparently they are going to try to go after the people that committed the crime.

My Way News - Sought: Wal-Mart shoppers who trampled NY worker

It's appaulling the response of some of the shoppers had when announced they killed someone and had to leave the store.

 

Sorry Ken.

I heard the response from the crowd was hateful. It is a shame we have come to that point as a society.

 

> even have a picture posted of myself hanging in there to be escorted off the premisis

I bet they don't have one of the knife wielding thief !

> He needs to work at a homeless shelter for his holidays

I have done that including New Years eve, I love people, but, I usually do 90%-100% of my shopping mail order because I can't stand being around some of these greedy jerks. What gets my blood going is seeing how they treat other people.

 

I think society as a whole is good. It's just that there are certain types of people that are more self-centered that others. It's those people that give a bad name to the rest of us. Think about it. What kind of person would skip thanksgiving celebration and sit in front of a store for a couple of days waiting for it to open, just to get some "really good deals". I wonder how many of those deals they get for themselves either to keep, or to sell on ebay or something like that. I have family members that hit the early bird specials the day after thanksgiving, and they are mostly going after stuff for themselves, not christmas gifts. They for the most part are self-centered people.

You can pick your friends, but you're stuck with family.

 

But we are all responsible to an extent about how society in a whole is.

 

Gotta disagree there. I am responsible for my actions and not anyone else's in society, except my children who are underage. Society is made up of individuals each capable of making choices.

 

Post #38. Individual responsibility? What a concept!

 

last year i had an internet xmas, man was it great, a couple hours, a few key strokes, and a relaxing time at home. No headaches, no people, and top it off it all arrived at my doorstep. My wife ridiculed me for it, but let me tell you the mere 1.5 hours i braved that mess, last years plan was the way to go. I intend to finish my shopping online. Screw the unwashed masses! Dan

 

Gotta go with Ken on this one too. We can control the conduct of ourselves, and the minor children under us, (the kids can be a challenge sometimes I admit) and set a good example for those around us. Untimately though it's up to the individual to accept responsibility for their own actions. It doesn't matter if you're by yourself, or part of a mob.

 

This is all why I chose to venture out today instead of yesterday. If yesterday was "Black Friday", I'm guessing today was something like "Plaid Saturday", as it was fairly subdued out there. I went to Wally World and picked up a bunch of Wii games for my sister's family, and then headed to the Best Buy at the mall for a set of Bose headphones for my brother-in-law. Each of these locations weren't crowded in the slightest, but their staff personnel looked a little worn out.

I'm probably going to finish my shopping online this weekend, and I'll be done for Christmas. Part of the reason is that my mother wants a record player for Christmas....yes...a record player. So, I'll be snooping for a decent of those as well. Since I'm going to be out of commission for a few weeks, I have to get everything done before Thursday, so it's forced me away from my typical procrastination.

As for the violence, and otherwise generally horrific behavior of our fellow citizens, it's just reinforcing in my mind that when i retire, I'm moving somewhere out in the sticks where I am within reach of the things I need, but won't have to deal with people too often. Between the trampling in Long Island, the shooting in AZ, and the shooting last week at the Southcenter Mall here in Washington, these holidays are shaping up to be rather ridiculous. Even with almost no crowd at Wal-Mart, I still had people cutting me off, running into me with no response, and just generally being horse's butts. My mother hates it when I say "people suck", but she's yet to give me any good arguments to dissuade my position.

 

When i say we are all responsible to an extent it is how we are and what others see, the lessons we teach. the people we vote for, do we turn a blind eye or take action, do we help people or turn our nose up, do we sit back and watch the world go by or do we get involved. It is a trickle effect. What we do in our lives does affect how others live in a indirect way. That is just how I believe.

 

You do raise a good point HB.

 

I'm calling BS on this one. I've been playing video games since I was very little, with my mother (Mario anyone?). I still have my Atari. I play games like Halo and Call of Duty these days. I am not detached. I am a grown young man who works all the time and pays for my own way and helps people when I can.

Austin is just a young jerk. Some people are just that way.

So sad about the Wal Mart worked. A lady had a miscarage, too. I wonder if that was due to the throngs of people pushing against her?

 

Every generation says the younger generation has lost its way. Its been going on (at least) since Plato complained about the younger generation not having respect in his writings. If anything can be blamed on any generation, its the adults, not the children, who are responsible -- children hold a mirror up to ourselves and I am responsible for making sure my kids get a good role model. Its far easier to blame kids for acting the way their parents brought them up.

I teach my children about respect for others, manners, sexuality, drugs, alcohol, smoking, how they treat others, work ethic, citizenship, life's lessons, etc. It's not society, schools, etc. that does this... they will play a positive role if I play a positive role. They play a negative role if I play a positive role.