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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 07:31 AM
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more rotisserie plans

surfing a welding board of all places and found these

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I'm not a big fan of engine stand cookers, but this one is done pretty good...

a little cheaper alternative maybe

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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 08:05 AM
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John, is the one you have for frames only or is that one designed to hold a car body, too?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jniolon
surfing a welding board of all places and found these

ROTO

I'm not a big fan of engine stand cookers, but this one is done pretty good...

a little cheaper alternative maybe

later
John
Hi John,
Which welding board did this come from? I belong to the Welding Web board and they have a forum for project threads. They seem to have a lot of project pictures. This guy seems to have documented everything he does.

The only thing I see wrong with this cooker is that about the cheapest you can get engine stands is from HF for $40.00. By the time you invest $80.00 in two of them and make the necessary modifications it would be easier to just fab the whole thing. Yours looks a whole lot cleaner than this guy's rig. Even at today's prices that $80.00 will go a long way toward buying the steel you need to do it right. Of course I suppose if you have two stands around that you don't need, it could be a reasonable alternative. I like your's better.

Later man...
 
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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John, is the one you have for frames only or is that one designed to hold a car body, too?
Havi... mine is a frame rotisserie.... don't know if you have the clearance for a body... but probably do... the only difference is the metalwork to connect to the body vs a frame... you'd have to fab up some kind of crossbar that attaches to the body and then bolt it to the rotisserie crossbar....

dave,

I agree on the design and cost.... just offering an alternative I found... I think I found it on the Miller site

Lets see your pics of some small projects - Miller Welding Discussion Forums


look for lins to 67chevelle's posts and links to his site

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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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Thanks, John. After thinking about it for awhile, I will need both rotisseries for all my projects. But as you mentioned, the clearance needed for a frame is less than a car body....this I can incorporate into the design, which I hope will cost less.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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Havi,

after thinking about it a while and looking at some pics... the upright on the cooker is drilled about every two inches up to about 6'... so you could raise the cross arm to a dangerous height if you wanted to... then the only restriction you'd have twisting the body would be ceiling height.. I guess.

the frame is about 6' wide with the cab mounts and runningboard mounts so a cab/body wouldn't be any wider.. just a little more cumbersome to handle...



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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 03:11 PM
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Havi,

after thinking about it a while and looking at some pics... the upright on the cooker is drilled about every two inches up to about 6'... so you could raise the cross arm to a dangerous height if you wanted to... then the only restriction you'd have twisting the body would be ceiling height.. I guess.

the frame is about 6' wide with the cab mounts and runningboard mounts so a cab/body wouldn't be any wider.. just a little more cumbersome to handle...



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John,
How did you manage to remove the weld seam baed from inside the box tibe so you cound slide the the larger tube over the smaller one? That has been a major stumbling block for me in using telescoping designs with the square tube. Going one size lower in wall thickness results in a sloppy fit in my experiences.

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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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Dave, I'm not sure if a seamless box tube is available or not, but that's one solution. Engine hoists use a seamless tube, but I believe they are specially made, or specially ordered. Otherwise, a quick grind to relief the Outside of the inner tube might allow clearance. Just hope the seam weld isn't too big. In replacing my engine hoist "slider", the tube's seam isn't any more than a 1/16" sticking out from the inside. As for the radius of the ID of the outer tube, I just ground a 1/4" radius down the outer edges of the inner tube. But if seamless box tube is available, I'd say it would be great. My .02.

John, for the frame width, I was considering the 78 F150 frame, 79 Bronco frame, IH frames, etc... The running board supports do make the old ones wider for sure. Good point on that, thanks.

A "big" bridgeport mill with a die grinder type bit would be handy for the ground relief, lol.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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John,
How did you manage to remove the weld seam baed from inside the box tibe so you cound slide the the larger tube over the smaller one? That has been a major stumbling block for me in using telescoping designs with the square tube. Going one size lower in wall thickness results in a sloppy fit in my experiences.

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DAVE....

several methods... I have some die grinder carbide burrs with a long shaft.... about 6" of reach... so you can work it from both ends... I've also got a narrow width air belt sander... looks like a piston with a 3/8" wide belt and the third and favorite is a file...

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DAVE....

several methods... I have some die grinder carbide burrs with a long shaft.... about 6" of reach... so you can work it from both ends... I've also got a narrow width air belt sander... looks like a piston with a 3/8" wide belt and the third and favorite is a file...

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I have one of those little belt sanders and it will only go in about four inches and the files aren't much better I have been trying to come up with some kind of an inside cutter on something like a shaper so I can do it quickly. Sometimes I need to do a piece two feet long and I have yet to come up with anything for that.

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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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I was at a car show in Ottawa, KS today and this was being displayed. Looked sort of interesting. Roller Hoop
 
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 09:15 AM
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Hi Havi, if you look in my gallery entitled seat belts, the last picture shows my frame on a rottiserie I built this summer. My frame is now painted and almost assembled and I'm planning to put the body of my panel on it soon. I used 3/16th material, 3 " , 2 1/2" and 2" square tubing that allows movement without any deburring of seams in the tubing. I was going to create another gallery with drawings and dimensions. I planned it by taking ideas from several I've seen on the internet. I tried posting the picture but I'm out of practise.
 
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