Help with fiancee
Heres the deal. I'm having difficulty understanding my fiancee's logic. At the same time, I am deployed so I think the situation multiplies the problem.
A little history, she has had insecurity problems in the past.
I was up at the phones talking to her, she asked where I was, I said "same place I'm always at when I call you, the MWR" she then says because she heard a girl laughing in the background. Now there are 8 booths, sometimes there are females...so what? But I looked around and didnt see any and told her so (in a polite way). She changed her attitude, I asked what was wrong and she said that I treat her like a moron becuase she "knows" she heard one.
A few minutes later I tell her that my time is about up, that I am going to work out. She asks "what do you wear", and "are there ever any girls up there?" I tell her that I wear my PT's and sometimes there are girls up there. She then says "thats all I needed to know"
Then she makes the assumption that I must be meeting people up there since I go at about the same time every day. Which isnt true, there are about 3 of us that go from our squad and thats just the time we all are able to go.
To me, this is insecurity at its worst, and I don't know what to do about it.
Do I just chalk it up to her having a hard time?
I called her back a few hours later, she said she was about to leave (shes at the beach with her parents). I said "ok..." and she follows with "I will talk to you later, bye" and hangs up.
I'm at a loss....
Good luck.
Ok,,,seriously,,This is a tough row to hoe,,,Who knows what her friends might be saying,,oh,,he has girls over there,,,he is doing this,,he is doing that. Not much you can do about that type of situation. The only thing you can do is try and talk.. Communication is the key. Maybe even send her a picture or two of the environment you are in while you are talking. It would give her a better in site as to why it would be possible that she might hear a womans voice in the back ground. The main thing is,,,talk,,dont hold back,,,trust me,,I speak from experience,,holding back and not bringing things out into the open causes them to fester and grow. Now if you will excuse me,,I am done being serious,,it gives me a headache!
Distance makes the heart grow fonder, unless the heart is jealous.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
Sounds like she's already made up her mind anyways, so basically you are SOL,,, She'll get over it, or she won't.
Think about it, she could not give a damn about anything you do or who you are around, how would you feel then?
1) Fidelity of the body - obvious - you keep your hands and body parts to yourself.
2) Fidelity of the heart - There is only one woman that occupies "that place" in your heart; you have no unresolved feelings or yearnings for any other.
3) Fidelity of the mind - Our thoughts are cented on our loved ones. Dreaming of someone else, or excessive dreaming of something else is infidelity of the mind. We are focussed on our mate. It becomes unconsciously reflected in our manner and our actions in sublte ways that communicate whether our thoughts are primarily of our life with our chosen one, or if we are mentally elsewhere too often.
4) Fidelity of Appearance - This form of fidelity has taken a serious beating in modern society. It is based on this: It is perfectly human, normal, natural, and even healthy, for a person to feel uncomforatble, insecure, or worried by unduly compromising situations involving their loved one. It is also a sad fact that today about a third of both men and women will fall prey to their own human foibles and allow compromising situations to turn to outright infidelity of the heart and/or body.
The modern approach has been to cry "You must trust me!!". But that is an intellectually dishonest attempt to deny the reality of human nature. If we truly love someone, we choose to avoid putting our loved one through that. We avoid situations that could reasonably be expected to cause them fear and doubt.
We also leave no doubt, no opportunity for anyone else to get the wrong idea. Our manner, our management of situations, our conversation, our body language, trumpet to the world: "I am taken, and very happily so." Those who pretend to love someone but still seek the thrill of garnering outside interest, however innocently, are guilty of infidelity of appearance.
My advice? Make up your mind about whether or not she can move past this little girl insecurity crap, or mark my words, she will end up owning half your stuff in the divorce. It just smells like a statistic waiting to happen.
Now, just as a disclaimer, if you happen to be screwing around on her while you're over there, and she's got even the slightest basis for her concerns, then you deserve a kiwi enema, just like anyone would for having done so...I'm not saying anyone has done anything, but just covering the angles.
To try and clear things up a little...I am not cheating on her, nor would I ever. On the flip side, I truely believe in my heart and my gut that she has not cheated and will not. Ive had many girlfriends cheat on me and she doesnt give that vibe off.
Thankfully, she does not have friends that tell her stupid things to make her think bad thoughts. She has one good friend that she talks to (that knows both of us very well) who actually is trying to help her get over this problem. Tells her that I would never do that and that she should not worry.
Ending it right now is not an option for me, because I do love her, and I know who she can be. She has been working hard on her insecurities and admits that she has a problem with them, and wants to fix them.
I guess what I was trying to look for advice on is if there is anything that I can do to help her overcome this.
I know who she really is, and I know how she can really be. She has a problem with getting stressed out at home or with something else and taking it out on me (and has admitted this to her friend and me). She is willing to go to counseling, but doesnt want to go alone (I can understand that). So we may go when I get home. I dont want to tell her on the phone every day that I am not cheating on her, I shouldnt have to I dont think. But I do want to help her overcome this.









