Beheading on bus
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If you really think about it, we're ALL immigrants; ALL of us.
Problem probably started when the Europeans first came ashore.
Like what the native Indians said when they first saw the Europeans:
"Ah f***; boat people!"
Problem probably started when the Europeans first came ashore.
Like what the native Indians said when they first saw the Europeans:
"Ah f***; boat people!"
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Couple details out on the news here today, unconfirmed by me, as I did not see them from any other source:
--there was an aquaintance of the vic on the bus, a female from a prior job.
--perp sat with her & talked to her prior to the murder.
--talk about exctasy use at a smoke break during a stop.
Doesn't explain why he had a knife and scissors (as reported).
Perhaps more details to come, who knows.
--there was an aquaintance of the vic on the bus, a female from a prior job.
--perp sat with her & talked to her prior to the murder.
--talk about exctasy use at a smoke break during a stop.
Doesn't explain why he had a knife and scissors (as reported).
Perhaps more details to come, who knows.
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''Please kill me''
Another article with some insight on this tragedy.
Short read.
Canada World News - Canada bus beheading suspect says 'please kill me'
Short read.
Canada World News - Canada bus beheading suspect says 'please kill me'
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More likely to get a conviction for second than first.
The Criminal Code defines murder as the death of someone where the killer meant to cause the death or meant to cause them bodily harm that was likely to result in their death. There are two degrees of murder:
First-degree murder is when the killing is "planned and deliberate". In other words, where the murder was premeditated.
Second-degree murder is defined in the Code as all murders that are not first-degree but where the killing was still intentional.
Manslaughter is defined in the Code as a culpable homicide that is not murder - in other words, where someone killed someone unintentionally, such as a drunk driver.
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Ive been following this story since just the other day when I heard about it. Poor victim, thats an awfull way to go. I would have liked to think that I would have tried to help somehow.
Guns arent the answer. Would it have helped in this case, you betcha, but it would cause more harm then good, but thats a different story
I hope this guy receives some vigilante justice, I can foresee him pleading insanity, and getting a tad more then a slap on the wrist.
Guns arent the answer. Would it have helped in this case, you betcha, but it would cause more harm then good, but thats a different story
I hope this guy receives some vigilante justice, I can foresee him pleading insanity, and getting a tad more then a slap on the wrist.
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Sounds straightforward. Im wondering though, doesn't a prosecutor in Canada have the right to charge, and a judge or jury in Canada have the option to convict, a person of a lesser included offense if the facts support it? If so, then this guy Hannibal the Cannibal Jr. ought to be charged in the first degree.
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