No topic thread,,, Part 2
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Thats the problem with "blanket insurance systems". A few idiots causing trouble and accidents make it difficult for everyone. I will say this, in the time that I've lived in Saskatchewan, probably a good 85% of motorcycle accidents I've seen have been caused by other motorists in passenger vehicles using poor driving methods and habits. (I was almost a victim of this last summer. Wrecked a decent back tire on my Hayabusa because of some chicky not looking, shoulder checking, or signaling before making a highly illegal right turn).
I can attest to this as well... This last summer I was almost hit by the rear of someone's vehicle because they failed to shoulder check, signal AND use their mirrors.
I was in direct sight of the females driver-side mirror, and I could see her entire face, so I know she didn't do anything to look around before she changed lanes...
As a semi was getting on to College Drive, travelling west, the woman that nearly hit me didn't judge the speed of the semi correctly enough to see how slow it was going... So instead of slowing down to allow for the slow semi-truck in front of her, she decided to cut into my lane without warning...
I slammed on all handles, all brakes and leant forward to put more weight on the brakes and front tire. Luckily, I got out without anything done to me, but the woman had NO IDEA that she nearly destroyed me!
As I caught back up to her to flip her the bird, all she did was put up her hands and shrug her shoulders as if to say "OPPS!".... And what a big opps it would have been... I wasn't wearing too much protective stuff that day!
he other 15% are young kids who get their learners permit and immediately run out and buy a 600cc or 1000cc sport bike. Not only do they lack the skills to handle such a bike, they don't have the mental capacity to ride within their abilities. While the graduated driver program will be a nuscience for many, it will be a life saver for some twits provided they adopt the CC restriction as well.
I can attest to this as well... This last summer I was almost hit by the rear of someone's vehicle because they failed to shoulder check, signal AND use their mirrors.
I was in direct sight of the females driver-side mirror, and I could see her entire face, so I know she didn't do anything to look around before she changed lanes...
As a semi was getting on to College Drive, travelling west, the woman that nearly hit me didn't judge the speed of the semi correctly enough to see how slow it was going... So instead of slowing down to allow for the slow semi-truck in front of her, she decided to cut into my lane without warning...
I slammed on all handles, all brakes and leant forward to put more weight on the brakes and front tire. Luckily, I got out without anything done to me, but the woman had NO IDEA that she nearly destroyed me!
As I caught back up to her to flip her the bird, all she did was put up her hands and shrug her shoulders as if to say "OPPS!".... And what a big opps it would have been... I wasn't wearing too much protective stuff that day!
he other 15% are young kids who get their learners permit and immediately run out and buy a 600cc or 1000cc sport bike. Not only do they lack the skills to handle such a bike, they don't have the mental capacity to ride within their abilities. While the graduated driver program will be a nuscience for many, it will be a life saver for some twits provided they adopt the CC restriction as well.
I've heard 100's of stories of kids trying to buy a bike that's too big for them where they ask to "test drive" an 09 suzuki GSX-R 1000 and end up totalling it.... only to WALK it back to the owner and go "whoops!"
I never let anyone ride my bike but me... I won't even let family ride my bike because I know how dangerous it is and how naive they all are...
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Aaron - how fast were you going if you had to lock it up this hard???
I think its pretty common that people will pull into the left lane to get around slow moving trucks - common sense would say its part of defensive driving to anticipate a move like this??
Ive seen too many hot shots on bikes pull these fast passes - not saying you were, but be careful out there. Riding is lots of fun, its just that a bike is harder to see than a car or truck!
I think its pretty common that people will pull into the left lane to get around slow moving trucks - common sense would say its part of defensive driving to anticipate a move like this??
Ive seen too many hot shots on bikes pull these fast passes - not saying you were, but be careful out there. Riding is lots of fun, its just that a bike is harder to see than a car or truck!
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I don't know about Aaron, but I was only going 50km/h when I had to swing some evasive maneuvers. I will admit that at that particular instant I would have been in the chicky's blind spot had she checked her mirrors, but not if she had shoulder checked. Not to mention the simple fact that she turned from the far lane into the perpendicular street, so across one full lane of traffic to get where she wanted to be. No signal, no mirror check, no shoulder check. I fully seen it coming and thats the only way I avoided being hit... Power braked, missed getting hit, but nearly hit the curb and skidded a nasty flat spot in my rear tire when I locked it up. Whipped around and took chase (at first I thought it was a dude and I was ready to lay an azz whuppin'). Upon the begin of my chase, the 'Busa let loose with a smoke show that well rounded off the flat spot that my emergency braking had created. Caught up to the car and found it to be a chicky with tears in her eyes cause she'd realized what she done and expected me to be upset. I was, but swallowed my rage and calmly asked her to pay more attention to her driving from now on. I and other riders have family that need us.
Hi Viz clothing helps, as well as having your bike well lit. I will say one thing, this 800lb bohemoth that I now ride, as much as I enjoy it, will never be as agile as my Asian sport bikes, and in an emergency situation I would probably be better off with a bail out plan.
Ride safe... Live to ride, Ride to live, live to ride again...
Hi Viz clothing helps, as well as having your bike well lit. I will say one thing, this 800lb bohemoth that I now ride, as much as I enjoy it, will never be as agile as my Asian sport bikes, and in an emergency situation I would probably be better off with a bail out plan.
Ride safe... Live to ride, Ride to live, live to ride again...
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Aaron - how fast were you going if you had to lock it up this hard???
I think its pretty common that people will pull into the left lane to get around slow moving trucks - common sense would say its part of defensive driving to anticipate a move like this??
Ive seen too many hot shots on bikes pull these fast passes - not saying you were, but be careful out there. Riding is lots of fun, its just that a bike is harder to see than a car or truck!
I think its pretty common that people will pull into the left lane to get around slow moving trucks - common sense would say its part of defensive driving to anticipate a move like this??
Ive seen too many hot shots on bikes pull these fast passes - not saying you were, but be careful out there. Riding is lots of fun, its just that a bike is harder to see than a car or truck!
And to be honestly clear, everything happened so quickly that I had VERY little time to react. Another factor that I thought of and always have thought of is how much smaller my tires are on my 08 Honda. Take a look at pictures of any of them.... they're skinnies, front and back.
Less tire surface = less stopping power
When the woman in the lane to my right was driving in my near-miss, she was travelling much faster than me, and I was no where near her at the time. When everything went down (as I told), she hand stopped so quickly, that the relative velocity between us had nearly trippled (leaving MUCH less reaction time), which is when she decided to swerve into my lane.
I've got no idea why she slammed on her brakes (at the last second, right before hitting the semi), and then avoided the semi by swerving into my lane. She had plenty of time to get into my lane safely and without anything nasty having to happen.
My general consensus is that Saskatoon just has terrible drivers... simply because the average age is that much younger there...
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I think one thing that differs in drivers like Warren, and on a lesser extent myself, is we have drove big trucks. I dont have the experience that Warren does, but let me tell you I can spot a TON of things on my bike that are going to happen, before they happen, and thats just from my experience as a truck driver.
A person can really learn to almost read everything that is gonna happen on the road, even by doing simple things like glancing in another persons rear view mirror, or speeding up/slowing down when you see a possible merge catastrophe situation.
Not everything can be avoided mind you, but a lot of it can!
Drivers are terrible EVERYWHERE! Ive drove a lot of places, and 95 percent of people drive very very selfishly, with no consideration for simple laws, or consideration for anyone but themselves.
Pet peeve of mine is twin highways. Slow traffic to the right, speed limit is 110. Which one is the right rule to follow?!?!
So if your going less then 110, you stay to the right, if your doing the speed limit you should be able to choose either lane. The speeders feel that if your going the speed limit in the left lane, and they are speeding, that you should move to the right because "slower traffic keep to the right" But wait, that just means slow then the maximum speed limit, right?!
I drive over the speed limit as well from time to time (as Im sure we all do) but that whole twin highways thing always bugs me! Its right up there with people that dont know how to merge, and people that use the shoulder of the roads as a merge lane!
Ah, much better
A person can really learn to almost read everything that is gonna happen on the road, even by doing simple things like glancing in another persons rear view mirror, or speeding up/slowing down when you see a possible merge catastrophe situation.
Not everything can be avoided mind you, but a lot of it can!
Drivers are terrible EVERYWHERE! Ive drove a lot of places, and 95 percent of people drive very very selfishly, with no consideration for simple laws, or consideration for anyone but themselves.
Pet peeve of mine is twin highways. Slow traffic to the right, speed limit is 110. Which one is the right rule to follow?!?!
So if your going less then 110, you stay to the right, if your doing the speed limit you should be able to choose either lane. The speeders feel that if your going the speed limit in the left lane, and they are speeding, that you should move to the right because "slower traffic keep to the right" But wait, that just means slow then the maximum speed limit, right?!
I drive over the speed limit as well from time to time (as Im sure we all do) but that whole twin highways thing always bugs me! Its right up there with people that dont know how to merge, and people that use the shoulder of the roads as a merge lane!
Ah, much better
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Good morning steve...
Its true that many bad situations can be avoided just by being alert. I've avoided many a t-bone (both that I could have hit someone, and someone could hit me) just by always being alert. If I'm not alert and can't fully focus on the drive, I stop and take a rest. Also, in my truck I often do just slightly above the speed limit. Usually 2-5kmh over. Vehicles seem to get better mpgs, I still get where I'm going, and don't have to worry about party lights in my mirrors. On the 'busa that was a different story. No trouble to cruise at double the posted speed limit for a couple hours. However if there was traffic on the highway, I would back it down to 15-30kmh over. I'm not the twit trying to be a statistic, I've spent many an hour in the saddle of high performance toys...
Its true that many bad situations can be avoided just by being alert. I've avoided many a t-bone (both that I could have hit someone, and someone could hit me) just by always being alert. If I'm not alert and can't fully focus on the drive, I stop and take a rest. Also, in my truck I often do just slightly above the speed limit. Usually 2-5kmh over. Vehicles seem to get better mpgs, I still get where I'm going, and don't have to worry about party lights in my mirrors. On the 'busa that was a different story. No trouble to cruise at double the posted speed limit for a couple hours. However if there was traffic on the highway, I would back it down to 15-30kmh over. I'm not the twit trying to be a statistic, I've spent many an hour in the saddle of high performance toys...
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Morning everyone! Today I get my 05 Katana!!! YAY!!!! SO PUMPED!
I'll help clarify some things here Sheldon, because I have parents that love to be back seat drivers, and I ride the left lane like it's mine... no matter what speed I travel.
I've had this arguement too many times with back-seat-yelpers!
I WISH that I could have been more attentive to my very first T-bone accident. I lost my favourite (so far) daily driver (02 Dodge Dakota Crew Cab /w 90,XXX km on it) because some @#$%^ decided to run a red light on clarence ave. s. when the turn signal was gone and traffic was now allowed to go straight through the intersection.
I think what killed my dakota is the fact that I couldn't see the woman turning on a red turn signal because I was travelling up-hill and there were other vehicles blocking my vision.
Really wish I could get that nice little daktoa back...
. Oh well though. I guess I'll just make my 78 into my DD haha 
.
I'll help clarify some things here Sheldon, because I have parents that love to be back seat drivers, and I ride the left lane like it's mine... no matter what speed I travel.
I've had this arguement too many times with back-seat-yelpers!
Pet peeve of mine is twin highways. Slow traffic to the right, speed limit is 110. Which one is the right rule to follow?!?!
So if your going less then 110, you stay to the right, if your doing the speed limit you should be able to choose either lane.
You're merely "supposed" to keep to the right lane if you're travelling slower than the rest of traffic. There actually is NO law in Saskatchewan that states that you MUST stay to the right-hand side of traffic if your speed is 110, or even less than 110.
Of course, this brings up the problem of the "passing lane". I'm here to tell to you Sheldon, that the "passing lane" is only called the passing lane because it's the most common place for fast traffic to travel.
It's actually not illegal to pass someone on the right-hand lane when driving. Now, most of you might scratch your heads and say "well that would be a change, wouldn't it?" and yes it is, but i've done it before and it's not much different.
The only time it's illegal to pass ANYONE ANYWHERE is when you drive your vehicle into a shoulder lane, emergency lane and/or parking lane.
The speeders feel that if your going the speed limit in the left lane, and they are speeding, that you should move to the right because "slower traffic keep to the right" But wait, that just means slow then the maximum speed limit, right?!
Like I described above, it's the same answer really.
You're allowed to drive in any lane that you want, at any speed you want as long as it does not inhibit dangerous driving conditions to other drivers on the road.
If you really think about it, the only reason we have speed limits is because there are other drivers on the road. If we were the only ones on the road (one at a time, by ourselves), there would be no reason for speed limits.
I drive over the speed limit as well from time to time (as Im sure we all do) but that whole twin highways thing always bugs me! Its right up there with people that dont know how to merge, and people that use the shoulder of the roads as a merge lane!
Ah, much better
I couldn't have said the merge/shoulder lanes better myself there Sheldon. Two days ago I sent a "worded" email to SGI, trying to get their attention to do something about the idiots in the merge lane.
This next sentence I write purely out of rage from this morning (with other motorists):
IT SAYS MERGE YOU @!#$%!!!!
I just had to get that out there... lol. This morning I encountered 2 people who stopped in the merge lane. I felt like getting out and giving them each a kick to their vehicle...
So if your going less then 110, you stay to the right, if your doing the speed limit you should be able to choose either lane.
You're merely "supposed" to keep to the right lane if you're travelling slower than the rest of traffic. There actually is NO law in Saskatchewan that states that you MUST stay to the right-hand side of traffic if your speed is 110, or even less than 110.
Of course, this brings up the problem of the "passing lane". I'm here to tell to you Sheldon, that the "passing lane" is only called the passing lane because it's the most common place for fast traffic to travel.
It's actually not illegal to pass someone on the right-hand lane when driving. Now, most of you might scratch your heads and say "well that would be a change, wouldn't it?" and yes it is, but i've done it before and it's not much different.
The only time it's illegal to pass ANYONE ANYWHERE is when you drive your vehicle into a shoulder lane, emergency lane and/or parking lane.
The speeders feel that if your going the speed limit in the left lane, and they are speeding, that you should move to the right because "slower traffic keep to the right" But wait, that just means slow then the maximum speed limit, right?!
Like I described above, it's the same answer really.
You're allowed to drive in any lane that you want, at any speed you want as long as it does not inhibit dangerous driving conditions to other drivers on the road.
If you really think about it, the only reason we have speed limits is because there are other drivers on the road. If we were the only ones on the road (one at a time, by ourselves), there would be no reason for speed limits.
I drive over the speed limit as well from time to time (as Im sure we all do) but that whole twin highways thing always bugs me! Its right up there with people that dont know how to merge, and people that use the shoulder of the roads as a merge lane!
Ah, much better
I couldn't have said the merge/shoulder lanes better myself there Sheldon. Two days ago I sent a "worded" email to SGI, trying to get their attention to do something about the idiots in the merge lane.
This next sentence I write purely out of rage from this morning (with other motorists):
IT SAYS MERGE YOU @!#$%!!!!
I just had to get that out there... lol. This morning I encountered 2 people who stopped in the merge lane. I felt like getting out and giving them each a kick to their vehicle...
Good morning steve...
Its true that many bad situations can be avoided just by being alert. I've avoided many a t-bone (both that I could have hit someone, and someone could hit me) just by always being alert. If I'm not alert and can't fully focus on the drive, I stop and take a rest. Also, in my truck I often do just slightly above the speed limit. Usually 2-5kmh over. Vehicles seem to get better mpgs, I still get where I'm going, and don't have to worry about party lights in my mirrors. On the 'busa that was a different story. No trouble to cruise at double the posted speed limit for a couple hours. However if there was traffic on the highway, I would back it down to 15-30kmh over. I'm not the twit trying to be a statistic, I've spent many an hour in the saddle of high performance toys...
Its true that many bad situations can be avoided just by being alert. I've avoided many a t-bone (both that I could have hit someone, and someone could hit me) just by always being alert. If I'm not alert and can't fully focus on the drive, I stop and take a rest. Also, in my truck I often do just slightly above the speed limit. Usually 2-5kmh over. Vehicles seem to get better mpgs, I still get where I'm going, and don't have to worry about party lights in my mirrors. On the 'busa that was a different story. No trouble to cruise at double the posted speed limit for a couple hours. However if there was traffic on the highway, I would back it down to 15-30kmh over. I'm not the twit trying to be a statistic, I've spent many an hour in the saddle of high performance toys...
I think what killed my dakota is the fact that I couldn't see the woman turning on a red turn signal because I was travelling up-hill and there were other vehicles blocking my vision.
Really wish I could get that nice little daktoa back...
. Oh well though. I guess I'll just make my 78 into my DD haha .
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I bet your pumped thats awesome!
When there is a sign that says slower traffic keep right, and your travelling slower then the traffic in the left, your breaking the law by impeding other traffic. Thats why I wrote what I wrote! Cause your still impeding other traffic if your doing 110 in the left lane, and the rest of the traffic is doing 120, but your not breaking the maximum 110 speed limit!
See there again, if you drive to slow, then your impeding traffic, which is a ticket!
On a twinned highway yeah, besides places there is solid lines (like at intersections that go across the highway, its technicaly illegal to cross that solid white line!)
Glad to see im not the only one that hates the people that stop in the merge lanes though haha!
Glad to see im not the only one that hates the people that stop in the merge lanes though haha!
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I bet your pumped thats awesome!
When there is a sign that says slower traffic keep right, and your travelling slower then the traffic in the left, your breaking the law by impeding other traffic. Thats why I wrote what I wrote! Cause your still impeding other traffic if your doing 110 in the left lane, and the rest of the traffic is doing 120, but your not breaking the maximum 110 speed limit!
I can agree with you that when there is a visible sign saying that the slow traffic needs to keep to the right, you must do so... but at all other times, it's not illegal to drive in any lane you want.
Of course I mean the above statement within reason. I don't mean that you can travel 10 km/hr on a 110 km/hr freeway and it's still "legal". I simply mean the difference between 105 and 120. Either speed is acceptable in either lane if no signs are posted otherwise.
Glad to see im not the only one that hates the people that stop in the merge lanes though haha!
Actually, stopping in a merge lane is a ticketable offense because it's dangerous to all drivers around you, including those NOT in your lane. Most people don't know that little fact, but I found it out just three days ago now when I sent that nasty email to SGI.
It's not illegal, but highly frowned upon. It's called a merge lane for a reason! Lol!
When there is a sign that says slower traffic keep right, and your travelling slower then the traffic in the left, your breaking the law by impeding other traffic. Thats why I wrote what I wrote! Cause your still impeding other traffic if your doing 110 in the left lane, and the rest of the traffic is doing 120, but your not breaking the maximum 110 speed limit!
I can agree with you that when there is a visible sign saying that the slow traffic needs to keep to the right, you must do so... but at all other times, it's not illegal to drive in any lane you want.
Of course I mean the above statement within reason. I don't mean that you can travel 10 km/hr on a 110 km/hr freeway and it's still "legal". I simply mean the difference between 105 and 120. Either speed is acceptable in either lane if no signs are posted otherwise.
Glad to see im not the only one that hates the people that stop in the merge lanes though haha!
Actually, stopping in a merge lane is a ticketable offense because it's dangerous to all drivers around you, including those NOT in your lane. Most people don't know that little fact, but I found it out just three days ago now when I sent that nasty email to SGI.
It's not illegal, but highly frowned upon. It's called a merge lane for a reason! Lol!
If it were up to me, EVERYONE eligible to have a license would have to re-take their FULL drivers test every 5 years. This would solve a LOT of issues on the road, and it's not even that expensive to take...
