You can believe what you want.....I have workedin the 'real' industry...can you say that...or do you only have 'textbook' education....

So if I give a Ford Lighning 1/2 throttle, should I expect the engine to blow? If the engine is built right, I surely hope not...but I run it without oil (read: clipping) I can expect it to blow....

there are reasons all car audio manufactures build lower powered amps, I don't think it was to contradict, so they would blow their own subs.......

 

>You can believe what you want.....I have workedin the
>'real' industry...can you say that...or do you only have
>'textbook' education....
>

I have never 'worked' in the industry, I would have stated so earlier. I do have an industrial engineering degree and a strong aptitude for math. I was a super interested audiophile for many years. Have read many people's experiences with different drivers and enclosures and have taken this in light of my own experiences to for my opinions. My opinions are not easily swayed because someone with a flashy name comes telling me I'm wrong.

>So if I give a Ford Lighning 1/2 throttle, should I expect
>the engine to blow? If the engine is built right, I surely
>hope not...but I run it without oil (read: clipping) I can
>expect it to blow....

This has nothing to do with anything. You cannot make a speaker analogy with a car. Why do you guys keep trying this one. It makes you look silly, if anyone would step back and truely take a look. Just like that voluime **** argument, silly. And the toaster?

>
>there are reasons all car audio manufactures build
>lower powered amps, I don't think it was to contradict, so
>they would blow their own subs.......

Yea, they have included people who do not want to spend a fortune. But these people that do not want to buy large amps, will not likely buy big fancy speakers either. It's all marketing, you should know that very well.

 

Sorry to say, but it is true, if you are Distribution Director, I am qualified to be your boss. I am trained in manufacturing processes and logistics, as well as plant layout, time study and so on. This is what and Industrial Engineer does. Again, no offense.

 

>>So if I give a Ford Lighning 1/2 throttle, should I expect
>>the engine to blow? If the engine is built right, I surely
>>hope not...but I run it without oil (read: clipping) I can
>>expect it to blow....
>
>This has nothing to do with anything. You cannot make a
>speaker analogy with a car. Why do you guys keep trying
>this one. It makes you look silly, if anyone would step
>back and truely take a look. Just like that voluime ****
>argument, silly. And the toaster?
>
>>


And I quote directly from one of your previous posts.

"**Same for cars. Light weight + powerful motor = fast acceleration. Ask any drag racer."

Interesting....

Which argument are you going to try now? DF? Mms? Underpowering? Got anything else you would like to attempt?

How about claiming that Adire is trying to sell more speakers by writing a tech article explaining that a low inductance driver is "faster" when their available woofers probably wouldn't be considered low inductance.

We are eagerly awaiting your latest opinion with links that don't back what you are saying.

 

>Sorry to say, but it is true, if you are Distribution
>Director, I am qualified to be your boss. I am trained in
>manufacturing processes and logistics, as well as plant
>layout, time study and so on. This is what and Industrial
>Engineer does. Again, no offense.

textbook boss, or 'real' boss....with your attitude, I wish you luck job hunting.......

 

>Sorry to say, but it is true, if you are Distribution
>Director, I am qualified to be your boss. I am trained in
>manufacturing processes and logistics, as well as plant
>layout, time study and so on. This is what and Industrial
>Engineer does. Again, no offense.


And I am qaulified to be your boss. What this has to do with anything is beyond any logical explanation.

Is this your latest attempt at diversion?

No offense.

 

>And I am qaulified to be your boss. What this has to do
>with anything is beyond any logical explanation.
>
>Is this your latest attempt at diversion?
>
>No offense.

What is your qualification? Let me guess, God?

What diversion? The argument is over, now beggar off!

 

>
>>And I am qaulified to be your boss. What this has to do
>>with anything is beyond any logical explanation.
>>
>>Is this your latest attempt at diversion?
>>
>>No offense.
>
>What is your qualification? Let me guess, God?
>
>What diversion? The argument is over, now beggar off!

I accept your concession.

Thank you for finally understanding.

 

>I accept your concession.
>
>Thank you for finally understanding.

You must be insane! What concession? Talk about diversion.

 

I POSTED A REPLY TO YOUR GOOFY LINK

you have yet to reply to it, so I guess you agree with ME then???

 

>
>>I accept your concession.
>>
>>Thank you for finally understanding.
>
>You must be insane! What concession? Talk about diversion.


I made the assumption that you had conceded based on your comment that the argument was over. If you haven't conceded, we have only begun trying to help you understand.

 

>>
>>>I accept your concession.
>>>
>>>Thank you for finally understanding.
>>
>>You must be insane! What concession? Talk about diversion.
>
>
>I made the assumption that you had conceded based on your
>comment that the argument was over. If you haven't
>conceded, we have only begun trying to help you understand.

Oh, I understand. And I don't need your help. I know not what reason you are here. I guess you have an inferiority complex or something. You must need the support of others you look up to. But fact is, they and you, do not have a single standard. You all contradict yourselves and cannot produce relevant analogies.

You are well versed in PR, but that don't matter to me, I am an island. I do not seek the approval of others. I could not care less.

 

>I POSTED A REPLY TO YOUR GOOFY LINK
>
>you have yet to reply to it, so I guess you agree with ME
>then???

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The only thing you brought to the table was that you disagreed with Newton and then tried to discredit Adire Audio by simply saying the paper was merely trying to sell their subs. As I stated earlier, Adire doesn't have any subwoofers that have an extremely low inductance. Why would they try to "sell" low inductance when it isn't a feature that they an especially good spec on?

Can't we discredit any of your industry tech papers as merely marketing jargon by saying they are just trying to sell larger amps? I would never do it, but it seems like the kind of response you would use.

 

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>The only thing you brought to the table was that you
>disagreed with Newton and then tried to discredit Adire
>Audio by simply saying the paper was merely trying to sell
>their subs. As I stated earlier, Adire doesn't have any
>subwoofers that have an extremely low inductance. Why would
>they try to "sell" low inductance when it isn't a feature
>that they an especially good spec on?
>
>Can't we discredit any of your industry tech papers as
>merely marketing jargon by saying they are just trying to
>sell larger amps? I would never do it, but it seems like
>the kind of response you would use.


I am agreeing with Einstein, who said mass increases with velocity. Therefore, if your acceleration approaches infinity, your mass will be very heavy indeed.

consider this equation M = Mrest/(1-(v/c)^2)^.5

as v approaches c, you get a very large mass.

If this isn't enough to prove his argument bunk, then he himself used assumptions to claim fact.

That does it for me, sealed up tight. The guys is practicing PR, whether he knows it or not.

 

>Can't we discredit any of your industry tech papers as
>merely marketing jargon by saying they are just trying to
>sell larger amps? I would never do it, but it seems like
>the kind of response you would use.

Sure, if you can first PROVE THAT THEIR ARGUMENT IS BUNK!!!