Tire sizes
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your brother is very lucky then, think about it, 1 person ran 37s sucessfully (luckily is more like it) and hundreds (if not more) have run them and broke sumthing, if i was the person lifting it i wudnt be liking those odds, just me though not my money, you roll the dice!
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Originally Posted by detailsbydan
Well, my brother and i would beg to differ, but to each his own i guess. I ran 35s on stock jeep drivetrain for 4 and a half years with no issues what so ever, i know the ttb is stronger than the 30 / 35 setup i had in the jeep...
yea, my brothers, uncles, daughters, boyfriends, dads, brother has tractor tires on his ttb, with 8'' body lift too.
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No offense, but I don't care what you and your brother think....
A solid axle D44 with chromoly shafts and quality spicer joints is at it's max with 40" tires.
From my experience and many other peoples, if you actually use 4wd, then 35-36s are MAX for a stock D44 TTB (also, with a 6" lift.... don't know if you or your brother know this or not, but when lifting the TTB, it is extreamly hard on the frame, and it is known to crack b/c of the piviot bracket and extra weight of bigger tires).
As for a Jeep lasting with 35s... it's light, and under powered... makes it harder to break things like that.
D44 TTBs suck the big one! LAME!
A solid axle D44 with chromoly shafts and quality spicer joints is at it's max with 40" tires.
From my experience and many other peoples, if you actually use 4wd, then 35-36s are MAX for a stock D44 TTB (also, with a 6" lift.... don't know if you or your brother know this or not, but when lifting the TTB, it is extreamly hard on the frame, and it is known to crack b/c of the piviot bracket and extra weight of bigger tires).
As for a Jeep lasting with 35s... it's light, and under powered... makes it harder to break things like that.
D44 TTBs suck the big one! LAME!
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Originally Posted by detailsbydan
Well, my brother and i would beg to differ, but to each his own i guess. I ran 35s on stock jeep drivetrain for 4 and a half years with no issues what so ever, i know the ttb is stronger than the 30 / 35 setup i had in the jeep...
just dont argue, admit your wrong (and you are) and all will be good....
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yeah, its a bit lighter, but not by much, the scale weight on my cherokee was 4375, my 1992 f150 4765. and the solid axle is pinter compared to that d44 ttb. My jeep may have been a little underpowered but i was running 4.88 gears locked up front and rear. The only thing that ever gave me a problem was the clutch. Im not saying guys havent had trouble, but for on the street driving i bet he'll be fine as long as he doesnt lock it up...
Last edited by detailsbydan; Feb 14, 2008 at 12:12 AM.
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Also...The TTB is stronger than the chevy IFS, Ive seen tons of guys running 38s on full size chevys hardly ever having problems.
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From: Shelton, Washington
Originally Posted by quadzjr
wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!! and if your not breaking it, then your not wheeling it....
just dont argue, admit your wrong (and you are) and all will be good....
just dont argue, admit your wrong (and you are) and all will be good....
I wont admit im wrong, because i know that im not. If anyone would like to come out to shelton and see how we wheel and with what equipment, they are more than welcome...
As for the other response to the pivot point getting week: If you lift it right, it will be strenghened more than enough. Thats why i stay away from Rancho, rough / Tough country etc...
And once again, just for clarification, I am not stating that no one has had issues running big meat on the ttb, im just saying that everyone ive seen or personally heard has been fine running up to 37s offroad and on. so then IMO, it should be fine for this guy to run 39s on the street as long as he doesnt lock it up... I dont understand why he wants that size for the street but i am giving my opinion and best educated guess that it would be ok, not great, but ok.
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Originally Posted by MBBFord
No offense, but I don't care what you and your brother think....
A solid axle D44 with chromoly shafts and quality spicer joints is at it's max with 40" tires.
From my experience and many other peoples, if you actually use 4wd, then 35-36s are MAX for a stock D44 TTB (also, with a 6" lift.... don't know if you or your brother know this or not, but when lifting the TTB, it is extreamly hard on the frame, and it is known to crack b/c of the piviot bracket and extra weight of bigger tires).
As for a Jeep lasting with 35s... it's light, and under powered... makes it harder to break things like that.
D44 TTBs suck the big one! LAME!
A solid axle D44 with chromoly shafts and quality spicer joints is at it's max with 40" tires.
From my experience and many other peoples, if you actually use 4wd, then 35-36s are MAX for a stock D44 TTB (also, with a 6" lift.... don't know if you or your brother know this or not, but when lifting the TTB, it is extreamly hard on the frame, and it is known to crack b/c of the piviot bracket and extra weight of bigger tires).
As for a Jeep lasting with 35s... it's light, and under powered... makes it harder to break things like that.
D44 TTBs suck the big one! LAME!
I dunno guys... this all just seems like a bunch of un-needed b.s. he wants to keep the ttb, its his money, let him do what he wants. I have stated my opinion, you guys have stated yours, he will do what he wants...Im done trying to convince others of what ive seen and experienced, i would rather spend time with my family than argue over the internet...
Part of this forum is about being able to share our collective ideas and experiences, I share mine, you share yours, that guy shares his, and so on. Im 24 years old, and most of the other people here are around at the least my age, some older, some younger, We shouldnt be acting like a bunch of 5 year olds fighting over which toy is better, or what they have heard is always the truth and that no one could have a different story.
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well if he wants to be broke down in the middle of know where, cool let him, but it seems many more people have broke down with the same setup then got away with running it.
If it were me i would go with the statistics. But if you want to ignrore the knowlegable people in here thats your choice not mine.
If it were me i would go with the statistics. But if you want to ignrore the knowlegable people in here thats your choice not mine.
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Originally Posted by detailsbydan
Well, then i guess i could care less about what you think because i know i could get a solid 44 with C/M shafts and spicers to run 44s just fine, As long as im not running straight into shtik at 60 miles per hour head on. There is wheeling and then there is flat out bashing... I prefer to wheel, have fun and keep a truck running over a few years instead of: HEY BUDDY! Watch me hit this log at 40 and shoot up into the air! Can we say Very teenaged and immature???
I dunno guys... this all just seems like a bunch of un-needed b.s. he wants to keep the ttb, its his money, let him do what he wants. I have stated my opinion, you guys have stated yours, he will do what he wants...Im done trying to convince others of what ive seen and experienced, i would rather spend time with my family than argue over the internet...
Part of this forum is about being able to share our collective ideas and experiences, I share mine, you share yours, that guy shares his, and so on. Im 24 years old, and most of the other people here are around at the least my age, some older, some younger, We shouldnt be acting like a bunch of 5 year olds fighting over which toy is better, or what they have heard is always the truth and that no one could have a different story.
I dunno guys... this all just seems like a bunch of un-needed b.s. he wants to keep the ttb, its his money, let him do what he wants. I have stated my opinion, you guys have stated yours, he will do what he wants...Im done trying to convince others of what ive seen and experienced, i would rather spend time with my family than argue over the internet...
Part of this forum is about being able to share our collective ideas and experiences, I share mine, you share yours, that guy shares his, and so on. Im 24 years old, and most of the other people here are around at the least my age, some older, some younger, We shouldnt be acting like a bunch of 5 year olds fighting over which toy is better, or what they have heard is always the truth and that no one could have a different story.
You've seen one TTB last with 37s. I've seen on give on the way to the trail with 33s!
And many other people on here have seen them grenade with anything over 35s.
Go to Pirate4x4, and I guarnetee you they will call you every name in the book for thinking a TTB can handle anything.
They also will tell you a D44 with chromos can't handle 40"+. IF You take it easy yes, but not if you actually wheel with it.
So go play at the mall all you want with your TTB!
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Why does this have to go this way? You gave the guy your opinions, and he gave his. You don't need to force it on the guy or insult him. He may well break it - he may not. But he's a big boy and can choose to go in the direction he wants to go in. If he does not agree with you, that is no reason to be insulting.
You guys know your stuff - that's good. I'm sure lots of that experience was gained by listening to people who know what they are talking about. I'm also sure some of it was gained by breaking stuff.Let the guy gain his knowledge in the way he chooses to do so.
This forum is for everyone, and I think you guys are scaring people out of it.
You guys know your stuff - that's good. I'm sure lots of that experience was gained by listening to people who know what they are talking about. I'm also sure some of it was gained by breaking stuff.Let the guy gain his knowledge in the way he chooses to do so.
This forum is for everyone, and I think you guys are scaring people out of it.
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well thanks for all the help and sorry to cause such a big debate on wether a ttb can run 39.5s or not and which one is the best. I know I probably shouldnt be in this forum but i was only looking for some advice to what are the possible options for my truck and what i would have to consider in doing the bigger tire setup. All of your advice is greatly appreciated since i am fairly new to the lift kits and have not ran any of them before.