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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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the click could be the starter relay working and not the starter solenoid or it's the starter solenoid kicking but the starter motor is stuck. that would be where the hammer comes into play. testing it is the best idea anyway. i replaced mine two years ago with the basic one from advance auto parts. no problems yet. it was amazing how over time the old starter had been slowly getting sluggish and i didn't notice it, then when the new one was on, it sounded like it was spinning twice as fast.

one note: my starter bolts came loose after a week, i know i tightened them, so i put some loctite on the bolts, which was probably not a good idea seeing as they go into aluminum
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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I tapped it with the hammer and it clicked a little more but didnt turn
I want to test it at least gonna use jumper cables on it.

I dont think there is a seperate relay.

Leaning toward the DB higher torque starter.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 01:26 AM
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MADVAN are you sure a 1996 van even has the starter relay?
I pulled the battery and looked in the fender well but theres nothing there.

I tried the starter with the jumper cables today and it ran.
But only after I jumped the solenoid.
After that it spun ok off the small solenoid wire.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 07:25 AM
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Do you have both batts under the hood?
You might have ambulance package.
Check under the drivers side batt tray.

Bill
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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did you hit the solenoid or the body of the motor? sometimes electric motors get "dead" spots in them (meaning it needs rebuilt or replaced) that you can get them past by hitting the motor with a hammer while applying the voltage either by the key, cables or jumping it with a screwdriver. best thing is to take it off and bench test it or have the parts store do it. sounds like it's bad (either solenoid or motor), assuming that all the connections to the starter from the batts are good and clean?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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Well I took it to NAPA it tested bad.
So I ordered the JB starter.

I have the 2 batteries.
I'll check under the driver side batt but I had that out last year and dont remember seeing it.

If its anywhere in there it should be connected to one of the big battery cables right?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 03:33 PM
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Is the SD gear reductions a bolt on to our engines?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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I believe so. but it has only 2 bolts compared to our three. I also think the wiring ends up in a different place but I don't think that is as much an issue.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 03:49 PM
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Cool. Sounds like any issues can be solved with of sodering gun. Wonder why they only went with two bolts instead of three. Oh well.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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Wonder why they only went with two bolts instead of three. Oh well.
Just being cheap! They saved in machining and a bolt, and a new vender to supply the starter. You have to drill the lug out on the wiring a little bit. It will not fit on the starter. I would rather have the 3 bolt starter. Allthough it may not need it.

Reminds of one of the mini vans. Dont remember which one. On a rearend inpact the door will open and passengers can fly out. All because some smart ars engineer said save the money on the washer. They were recalled to install the washer.

Bill
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MADVAN
On a rearend inpact the door will open and passengers can fly out.

Bill
Sounds like fun as long as its not my wife or kids!!
 
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 08:18 AM
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Sounds like fun as long as its not my wife or kids!!
what kind of fun it that?!! you need help, tim.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 10:24 AM
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No I figured with a helmet it would be fun ride for me! not others. I don't have much excitement in my life right now! I need a good thrill ride. Almost had one this morning. nearly rear ended a cop in a blizzard!!
 
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 02:13 AM
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I have a 2000 E-450SD and the starter is slow to start turning the engine over, but soon picks up speed and startes the engine fine, and this just started, (good battery and charge, all good connections and cables) the only solenoid is mounted on the starter. There are new starters for about $100. no core, and rebuilt units for $85 to 90 with a core charge. But I found no such thing as a HD starter, except one for a diesel, witch is geared and costs about $500.
Replacing looks easy, its all out in the open.
 
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