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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 12:48 AM
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"QUOTE=gt8684]speaking of the banks intercooler kit, and the 6.0 intercooler.... which is larger? i would assume the banks because thats what they say, but has anyone seen the 6.0 intercooler and banks intercooler (7.3l) together to compare?[/QUOTE]

Here are the core dimensions of the Banks and stock 6.0 intercoolers.

total volume cross section area frontal area

Banks 7.3 29.5"x18"x2.25" 1194 cu in 40.5 sq in 531 sq in

Stock 6.0 26.5"x21"x2.5" 1391 cu in 52.5 sq in 556 sq in
 
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 05:54 AM
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so even though (comparing the numbers you posted) the 6.0 is smaller it flows better than the banks aftermarket replacement for the 7.3?

that's mighty tempting! not only is that route cheaper, i think the parts are more readily available!

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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by fishmanndotcom
so even though (comparing the numbers you posted) the 6.0 is smaller it flows better than the banks aftermarket replacement for the 7.3?

that's mighty tempting! not only is that route cheaper, i think the parts are more readily available!

-cutts-
From those dimensions the 6.0 doesn't neccesarily flow more but it is larger in size. Flow will depend on the design of the end tanks and the cooling tubes. CFM is the number we would need to compare the flow of each. I have never heard anybody talk about those specs but I think dollar for dollar you can't go wrong with 6.0 cooler
 
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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Can't beat ebay, but any of the 7.3 or 6slow coolers will be better than nothing.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Pest007 sorry I still haven't gotten the pics of my blown turbo for you. I forgot what thread that was in but when I get the chance I will get those taken and posted for you.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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I remember cookie had some pics of one. It was caused by stuck ebpv.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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yeah mine wasn't nearly that nasty!! that was a bad pic. My damage was on the intake side because of the thrust bearing failure.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RocknXJ
"QUOTE=gt8684]speaking of the banks intercooler kit, and the 6.0 intercooler.... which is larger? i would assume the banks because thats what they say, but has anyone seen the 6.0 intercooler and banks intercooler (7.3l) together to compare?
Here are the core dimensions of the Banks and stock 6.0 intercoolers.

total volume cross section area frontal area

Banks 7.3 29.5"x18"x2.25" 1194 cu in 40.5 sq in 531 sq in

Stock 6.0 26.5"x21"x2.5" 1391 cu in 52.5 sq in 556 sq in[/QUOTE]

well i guess if you wanted to take it one step furthur, you could get a banks 6.0 intercooler and stuff that in for a 7.3l and have the best of bolth worlds...
 
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by fishmanndotcom
so even though (comparing the numbers you posted) the 6.0 is smaller it flows better than the banks aftermarket replacement for the 7.3?

that's mighty tempting! not only is that route cheaper, i think the parts are more readily available!

-cutts-
The 6.0 is definitely larger than the Banks 7.3 in every area. Total volume is 1391 vs 1194 cu in, cross section area is 52.5 vs 40.5 sq in, and frontal area is 556 vs 531 sq in. To me flow would be mostly related to cross section area, then effected by individual design.

In trying to figure out which intercooler to get for my new truck, I got the dimensions on every IC (except the Tapercore) and compared all the dimensions. In the bang for the buck category, the stock 6.0 is a run away winner. I figured since we really don't know which construction design is better, and word of mouth testimonials vary too greatly, we are left with overall dimensions as the most likely evidence of which cooler would work the best.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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While I will agree that you could assume that total volume would be the great air flow it may not really be true. The total volume listed is simply height* width* depth that does give a true picture of air passage volume or is resistance to air flow.

In a logical arguement yes the 6.0 would seem like it may be able to flow more air than the banks unit but I am not willing to say for sure that it will. But that said the 6.0 cooler is better than the standard 7.3 cooler. The superduty guy claim 50-200 degree drop in temps when they make the switch.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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ah and since we are on flow and heat transfer, i got the nmbers for our trans coolers in, i dont know what we flow stock but the 6.0 trans cooler flows 136% more than a 99-03 7.3 cooler. the 7.3 is 9 rows and the 6.0 is 25. copare that to ours.....
 
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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While I will agree that you could assume that total volume would be the great air flow it may not really be true. The total volume listed is simply height* width* depth that does give a true picture of air passage volume or is resistance to air flow.

In a logical arguement yes the 6.0 would seem like it may be able to flow more air than the banks unit but I am not willing to say for sure that it will. But that said the 6.0 cooler is better than the standard 7.3 cooler. The superduty guy claim 50-200 degree drop in temps when they make the switch.
If we're talking about flow, I think the cross section area is most relevant, rather than total volume. Total volume probably doesn't mean a whole lot, other than a bigger cooler will have a bigger volume, except that with a bigger volume more charge air is being cooled at a given time. Flow is one thing, and cooling ability is another, both being important. A short, fat cooler with a large cross section but short tubes could flow a lot of air but not cool it much.

All speculation, since I'm far from an engineer.....but it is interesting. Baring a better understanding, for even money I'd always go with a larger intercooler.

BTW, it looks like I picked up a used 6.0 with a new GTS pipe kit off the for sale forum. I was about to order a Banks pipe kit, and was still undecided on which IC. Now I can spend some $$ on something else.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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I would love to have a 6.0 and a banks. I have the technology to do the test. Any donors? I promise I will send the looser back.
 
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