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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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1966 F100 Engine Questions

Hello all,

I have my eye on a 66 F100 that the current owner claims is a small block v8. I am not able to readily identify the engine from looking at it. It does have an old sticker on the air filter that says 352. But Im thinking the air filter could have been easily changed at some point.

He also claims it is the original engine. What v8's came in the 66 F100? Is the 352 the only one?

thanks for any input, sorry for my newness.
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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Scott: you certainly do not need to apologize! This is one of the best truck stops in the information highway. Welcome to FTE!
We hope you will feel welcome, and find it a great place to get help and information.

The 352 FE V8 was the only V8 offered in '65, '66 and '67 in the trucks. It replaced the Y-block 292, last used in '64.
In '68, the 352 ws replaced by the 360 FE, and the 390 was offered as an option then as well.

There are a few documented cases of the 390 being installed prior to '68, and fewer still - very very rare - of 427s being installed in these trucks.

A quickie check to see if it is an FE is this: Look under the valve cover rim, where the intake and the head meet. If the valve cover covers a portion of the intake manifold, you have an FE engine. There will be a seam between the 2, under the valve cover. You can easily see it in the front.

Check out the FE forum here at FTE, or do a wiki of the FE - it is really quite good.

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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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thanks for the info.

Scott
 
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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The original air cleaner on 1965/66 Ford V8 pickups was an oil bath. It was painted black. The 352 decal was placed at the front center.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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And I would never call a 352 a "small block". Especially once you try to lift one, or even just the intake! They are more of a big block engine in spite of their displacement.
A small block would really be a 289/302/351 which was not offered in the truck.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 11:02 PM
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And I would never call a 352 a "small block". Especially once you try to lift one, or even just the intake! They are more of a big block engine in spite of their displacement.
A small block would really be a 289/302/351 which was not offered in the truck.
lol so true!
 
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 07:05 AM
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The designation "small block" was not used by Ford, but was a Chevy concept, although it has crossed over to generically mean anything over 400 CID.
Ford uses the designation of Family.
The FE family is an example of why the term "big block" won't fit well. Yes, it is a big engine, weighing in at nearly 1,000 pounds fully equipped.
The "smallest" FE was 330 CID, which is less than a Chevy "small block" - yet the 330 is the same physical size as the largest FE, the 428. In fact, it looks identical on the outside. You cannot tell a difference just by looking on the oputside.
So the FE gamut runs thus: 330, 352, 360, 390, 406, 410, 427 and 428.
Which goes to show that "big block" vs "small block" doesn't really apply to the Ford scheme of things.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by banjopicker66
The designation "small block" was not used by Ford, but was a Chevy concept, although it has crossed over to generically mean anything over 400 CID.
Ford uses the designation of Family.
The FE family is an example of why the term "big block" won't fit well. Yes, it is a big engine, weighing in at nearly 1,000 pounds fully equipped.
The "smallest" FE was 330 CID, which is less than a Chevy "small block" - yet the 330 is the same physical size as the largest FE, the 428. In fact, it looks identical on the outside. You cannot tell a difference just by looking on the outside.
So the FE gamut runs thus: 330, 352, 360, 390, 406, 410, 427 and 428.
Which goes to show that "big block" vs "small block" doesn't really apply to the Ford scheme of things.
I believe you mean 332, a 330 is an FT engine.

FE: 332, 352, 361 (1958 Edsel only), 390, 406, 410, 427, 428.

FT: 330, 361, 391.

Even though not refered to as such, both the FE and FT engines are Y blocks.
 

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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 07:25 AM
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Yep, thanks for the correction. 330, 361 and 391 were FT engines.
I tried to help a friend replace a 361 with a 390 in an F-600 about 5 years ago. We never could get the transplant to work, with all the minor differences between the 2.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:35 AM
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John, Do you recall what the differences were? I knew the manifolds were different, but for most purposes the bare blocks look identical.

John
 
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Originally Posted by jowilker
Do you recall what the differences were? I knew the manifolds were different, but for most purposes the bare blocks look identical.

John
Two very different cups of tea. Looks can be deceiving. The intake manifolds are wider on a FT engine than on an FE engine. Someone here just went thru that fiasco. He bought a engineering numbered 1970 4V intake manifold, it wouldn't fit...he asked me why. The tip-off: There was no such thing as an early 70's 4V intake manifold for an FE engine. The last car to have a FE 4V was the 1969 Mustang, the first F100/350 (390 only) to have a FE 4V was in 1973. The manifold turned out to be from a 391.


The front engine mounts on an FT engine are similar to what the 292 uses. Heads are different, different oil pan (dry sump), different timing chain and gears, different block, different...
 

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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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One guess as to who that guy was, John.
Anyone want a smokin' deal on a beautifully painted FT intake?
 
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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My guess it was Frank Tolinski. LMAO

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