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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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Question Ceramic 54 engine?

Anyone ever hear of ford in 54 making a ceramic engine. Maybe it was ceramic parts. This guy came to my wifes shop about doing an engine in ceramic. She was not there at the time, someone else talked to this guy.
So if they did make a ceramic engine or parts. If anyone knows where on the web to look and read about this. I would like to look it up myself.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 66gpw
Anyone ever hear of ford in 54 making a ceramic engine. Maybe it was ceramic parts. This guy came to my wifes shop about doing an engine in ceramic. She was not there at the time, someone else talked to this guy.
So if they did make a ceramic engine or parts. If anyone knows where on the web to look and read about this. I would like to look it up myself.
What kind of a shop does your wife have?

The only part that I know Ford used that was ceramic...was the fuel filter element used in inline glass bowled fuel filters from the 1930's thru the early 60's.


If someone wants to do an engine in ceramics, all he/she needs to do is to take a course in pottery making. The engine won't run, but depending on the glazes used, will look glossy or have a matte finish. Hmm, I wonder if one can find a glaze that matches Ford Blue engine paint?
 

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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 12:12 AM
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Thanks Number. I was wondering. I see Mazda experimented on their rotoary engines thats about it.
Have to see what this guy says when he comes back to talk to my wife.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 66gpw
Thanks Number. I was wondering. I see Mazda experimented on their rotoary engines thats about it.
Have to see what this guy says when he comes back to talk to my wife.
GM back in the 1970's used Teflon to coat the cylinder walls of their wunderkind car = The chevrolet Vega. The terds burned oil from day one.
 

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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 12:17 AM
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Henry "Smokey" Yunick experimented with ceramic engine parts.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 12:20 AM
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Henry "Smokey" Yunick experimented with ceramic engine parts.
Smokey Yunick's catch phrase = "The best damn garage in town!"

Ceramics: Maybe that why his garage was so damn good!

I wonder how many of his NASCAR 421ci Pontiac V8's used ceramic engine parts?
 

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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 12:34 AM
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Well Ford did consider this and i am sure other automakers have. By coating high friction parts of the engine in ceramic you lower friction.

http://www.engineceramics.com/coating_pistons.htm
 
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 01:09 AM
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People also use ceramic coatings as heat barriers, particularly on valves, headers, and piston tops.
 
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I read about experiments with ceramic engines in Popular Science and elsewhere -- I think it was in the 70's. Theory was that they could run a lot hotter.

Couldn't make them work. Big problem when parts failed-- as they apparently did. Parts would disintegrate --making it kind of tough to figure out what went wrong.

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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 03:04 AM
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They were a developmental turbine engine, and made from sintered carbides or oxides of some sort, not your conventional wheel-spun pottery.
There is quite a bit of info out there on these, and it was really an interesting chapter of automotive history.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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That was an interesting article there gas hog. I think I would be reluctant to put ceramic coatings on some parts. Om the other hand I see how it can seal and help oil flow better.
It will be interesting to see if we hear ack from this fella.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ford2go
I read about experiments with ceramic engines in Popular Science and elsewhere -- I think it was in the 70's. Theory was that they could run a lot hotter.

Couldn't make them work. Big problem when parts failed-- as they apparently did. Parts would disintegrate --making it kind of tough to figure out what went wrong.

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I remember reading about them way back. As I recall they were air-cooled.
 
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Ceramic Tiles = Space Shuttle. The entire outer skin is covered with ceramic tiles.
 
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