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PROS - Last longer... work cooler... less dust... less warpage... better performance
CONS - More expensive... can sometimes take a little bit longer to "seat"... in other words it may take 50-100 miles of driving to get "full" braking power out of them.
The 'con' about wearing out the rotors sooner is really offset considerably when you consider the longevity of the brake pad's lifetime. Several sets of organic or other softer materials cost as much as or more (labor is the same on all types) than rotors. So, my preference goes to the ceramics. Fewer change-outs, less dust build up, safer stopping, etc.
The 'con' about wearing out the rotors sooner is really offset considerably when you consider the longevity of the brake pad's lifetime. Several sets of organic or other softer materials cost as much as or more (labor is the same on all types) than rotors. So, my preference goes to the ceramics. Fewer change-outs, less dust build up, safer stopping, etc.
I do my own brakes (and pads are very easy to change) and found that it's better to use softer pads so I don't need to worry about rotors -- more expensive and lot more work. But this is all IMHO.
I do my own brakes (and pads are very easy to change) and found that it's better to use softer pads so I don't need to worry about rotors -- more expensive and lot more work. But this is all IMHO.
My point was this: Eventually all rotors wear out regardless of the composition of the pads used. So, you will be doing it no matter what. But "more expensive" is a fallacy because you have already spent as much (or more) on pads as would have on rotors. Ergo my comment that you are not really saving any money.
My point was this: Eventually all rotors wear out regardless of the composition of the pads used. So, you will be doing it no matter what. But "more expensive" is a fallacy because you have already spent as much (or more) on pads as would have on rotors. Ergo my comment that you are not really saving any money.
I usually buy "lifetime guaranteed" pads and so most of the time they are free as long as you own the vehicle. I agree with pops_91710 because pads are getting easier to change as the technology improves. I have wanted to try the ceramic pads, but afraid they will wear out my rotors.
My point was this: Eventually all rotors wear out regardless of the composition of the pads used. So, you will be doing it no matter what. But "more expensive" is a fallacy because you have already spent as much (or more) on pads as would have on rotors. Ergo my comment that you are not really saving any money.
Well, my Bronco has 195k on it, and I believe it is still on its original rotors. Got it at 120k, so I can't be 100% sure, but it was a govt vehicle, and they sell them before major repairs from wearout kick in. Aside from turning them at 125k, 2 brake pads, and some brake fluids, nothing else were done or used since I got it. Last I checked the rotors were still in excellent shape. Not sure how long a rotor last with ceramic pads, but I consider mine pretty good, and I used only OEM or equivalent pads.
Last edited by aurgathor; Dec 22, 2006 at 01:27 PM.
Well, my Bronco has 195k on it, and I believe it is still on its original rotors. Got it at 120k, so I can't be 100% sure, but it was a govt vehicle, and they sell them before major repairs from wearout kick in. Aside from turning them at 125k, 2 brake pads, and some brake fluids, nothing else were done or used since I got it. Last I checked the rotors were still in excellent shape. Not sure how long a rotor last with ceramic pads, but I consider mine pretty good, and I used only OEM or equivalent pads.
Everything is relative to how a vehicle is driven and environmental conditions. I don't see how what you have said has anything to do with my comment. You have to compare it to the same vehicle used under exactly the same conditions. Nothing said here invalidates my statements.