I keep reading of guys stacking tuners and chips for big power gains. I know its more that just puttin them both on there!! Can some one clear this up????

Thanks again guys
Mike

 

Dont do it, just get a good chip and youll be much better off. Stacking is for duracraps and cummins. On the 7.3 one good chip will offer better results.

 

man i couldent ask for any faster of an answer!!! LOL thanks

 

The only "stacking" that you see is something from Edge or Banks. They stack a glorified and overpriced 10K mod with their own tuner.

 

Actually, it's not really much more than just putting them both on there.....

Here's what you're doing:

Tuner:
Reflashing a programmable read-only memory to alter HOW the engine computer reacts to input data from sensors. Example; If factory programming is supposed to add "X" amount of fuel during a certain situation, the tuner will actually cause the computer to act like the programmer told it to do by adding "Y" amount of fuel instead.

Chip:
Ignoring factory read-only memory and using a completely different "chip" for the engine computer to read from. Example; So instead of the ECM looking to its own internal fuel mapping for certain operating parameters, it looks to the "chip" for instructions on what to do.

Aftermarket add-ons (such as the Edge Juice or Dr. Performance "wired-in" stuff):
Changing the data values given to the engine computer to "fool" it and cause it to react differently (i.e. add more fuel, etc.) Example; If the injection control pressure sensor drops 2.75 volts, the module intercepts the signal, alters it, and THEN sends the CORRUPT signal voltage to the engine computer....the computer then reacts to the corrupt signal instead of what is really going on.

Hope that makes a little bit of sense.

So in actuality, stacking a chip and a tuner will rarely cause little more than the engine computer to listen ONLY to the chip...since the ECM's internal memory is bypassed. Conversely, a tuner or chip can be used with an external module. However, how the chip or tuner reacts to the corrupt signals (be it severe overfueling or a high pressure oil pump that can't keep up with what the power-adders are requesting and causing a check engine light) is kind of a mystery. The only way to know is to try.

Good luck!!

 

cleatus12r thanks for the in depth break down! that really helps, well my truck has a bully dog power pup programmer right now so what would be a good chip to try with that??? I mean its worth a try!!!


Mike.

 

A good chip(dp - tuner) will make the bully dog runaway with its tail between its legs.

 

Yea basically its not worth it I had a super chip tuner and the edge juice with attitude stacked for a couple days and my truck did not run good at all if I set the edge at any settings higher then 3 and even below that I didnt feel any diffrence. I sold it on ebay and bought a set of the autometer guages to moniter what my truck dose with the superchip

 

i have the TS performance chip and i was running it stacked with the banks six gun and have since turned the tuner off and it really runs alot better and i dont get the ses as often and i rarely see the 1211, when with the tuner turned on, every full throttle run i would get the 1211.