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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 03:37 AM
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Thats a fair point... telescopic steering wheels are important items (and relatively cheap to add at the manufacturing stage)
I don't know why the F150 doesn't have one...

Congrats on the new wheels
p.s. did you sell your Screw?
please let us know when your diff blows, and your brakes melt though
 
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BigF350
Thats a fair point... telescopic steering wheels are important items (and relatively cheap to add at the manufacturing stage)
I don't know why the F150 doesn't have one...

Congrats on the new wheels
p.s. did you sell your Screw?
please let us know when your diff blows, and your brakes melt though
No, I'm keeping the Lariat, the wife loves it, and has been driving it recently more than I. I hated going the route I did, but what choice did I have? Dodge doesn't offer bucket seats and center console, and the Chevrolets just didn't do it for me. I was disappointed in the Tundra, and it's uglier than a Titan. The Titans brakes have been fixed, btw. Nissan replaced the front rotors with a new design and are using ceramic pads. Most of the trucks were retro-fitted with the new brakes mid year 2005. There was never a recall, it was a case of brake judder, that was the problem. The rear end is a Dana 44, and what hurt them was Dana using cast spider gears. The 2006 uses a different design. If I have problems, I will pass along the info. Now if Ford would only fix the brake judder on my F150. Four times its been to the dealer, and after the last fix several weeks ago, everything seems ok...so far.
 

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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 05:07 AM
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I dont know but my 1998 handles rough road very will. its tought asw any titan yesterday i saan the mini Nissan truck I dont know what its called, but he had to barrels full of scraps of wood and he was botteed out, must be a 04, I have seen Rangers pulling trailers I didint know my truck could pull.
 

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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 93RangerXL4x2
I dont know but my 1998 handles rough road very will. its tought asw any titan yesterday i saan the mini Nissan truck I dont know what its called, but he had to barrels full of scraps of wood and he was botteed out, must be a 04, I have seen Rangers pulling trailers I didint know my truck could pull.
The Frontier is what you saw, or maybe the previous model which Nissan called the Hard Body. They are about the same size as a Ranger. Frontiers are cramped inside, even for the less than 6 footers. You can make all the inane comments you want. Since you've never driven one, anything you say is totally worthless. Get a Grip! I bought something I can fit in..period. I could care less what people say or think. If the 2009 F150 has a telescopic wheel, then I will buy one.
 

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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 93RangerXL4x2
I dont know but my 1998 handles rough road very will. its tought asw any titan yesterday i saan the mini Nissan truck I dont know what its called, but he had to barrels full of scraps of wood and he was botteed out, must be a 04, I have seen Rangers pulling trailers I didint know my truck could pull.
Ummm...who cares?

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Congrats on the purchase. Hope it treats you well.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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now now numberdummy calm down.. no need to get upset.. and get your blood pressure boiling.. now take a deep breath... yes see how good that feels...
 
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DOHCmarauder
Kinda..........since you used V6 TWICE in that first post, I was wondering if you knew what I or V even meant.


Meantime, while the durability of a 7 main bearing low revving, low HP motor is rarely questioned.....all the hype concerning power/torque seems to get greater as time goes on.

Being offered with a granny gear 4 speed for many years has certainly added to the massive torque urban legend.
Simple typo, I apologize. So used to typing V6 anymore, that I input both the "I" and "V", but you are correct.

I do understand the granny gear helped greatly in the stump pulling dept, as it did the same for my 85 Ranger 2.8L 4X4 w/4spd +OD manual. My main point was that sure the 300 may not have the greatest top end, but it was as durable as any engine I've ever owned and would do basically anything I asked of my last 330ci (2V). Haven't truly broken in my current F150, so I'm unsure of all it's potential. My biggest concerns with a truck are durability, longevity, safety and reliability. I could care less if the Titan has more HP, as this is the only advatange I found the Titan to have that fits MY needs.

Thanks for correcting me though, I hate to post stuff and people look at me as if I'm some idiot. Which they probably already do, but who cares.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by V8EXPLR
Simple typo, I apologize. So used to typing V6 anymore, that I input both the "I" and "V", but you are correct.

I do understand the granny gear helped greatly in the stump pulling dept, as it did the same for my 85 Ranger 2.8L 4X4 w/4spd +OD manual. My main point was that sure the 300 may not have the greatest top end, but it was as durable as any engine I've ever owned and would do basically anything I asked of my last 330ci (2V). Haven't truly broken in my current F150, so I'm unsure of all it's potential. My biggest concerns with a truck are durability, longevity, safety and reliability. I could care less if the Titan has more HP, as this is the only advatange I found the Titan to have that fits MY needs.

Thanks for correcting me though, I hate to post stuff and people look at me as if I'm some idiot. Which they probably already do, but who cares.

Right on.........everyone has different needs; the 300 I-6 has never met mine.

Back in the mid ninties Ford was offering unbelievable dealer cash/rebates on I-6 150's.

If memory serves, an Eddie Bauer 4WD was $11,000........cheaper than a Ranger and nearly $10,000 cheaper than the 351/ F-150 I ended up buying.

What made the decision was borrowing a buddies I-6 and towing my Sea Doos from LA to Vegas......maybe a 2,000 pound trailer.

While Baker grade has humbled many a truck/trailer, The above mentioned combo was the most pitiful I'd ever driven.

I understand that a lot of people don't care about being in the truck lanes doing 45-50MPH........I'm not one of them.

In the old days, I scoffed at the durability comments because I rarely kept a truck longer than its warranty period....now that I have a 7 model year old Super Duty, and I cannot stomach paying $40,000-$50,000 for a new rig, that durability all of a sudden seems important to me.

The V6 comment I figured was a mistake............it's just around here, you never know.

And there are only few "idiots" posting.......you're not one of them.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DOHCmarauder
If memory serves, an Eddie Bauer 4WD was $11,000........cheaper than a Ranger and nearly $10,000 cheaper than the 351/ F-150 I ended up buying.

What made the decision was borrowing a buddies I-6 and towing my Sea Doos from LA to Vegas......maybe a 2,000 pound trailer.

While Baker grade has humbled many a truck/trailer, The above mentioned combo was the most pitiful I'd ever driven.

I understand that a lot of people don't care about being in the truck lanes doing 45-50MPH........I'm not one of them.

And there are only few "idiots" posting.......you're not one of them.
The 300 wasn't the most popular engine in F150 line-up, given the fame the 302 and 351 created during their time. So to me it's kind of understandable why it was so much cheaper to get the 300.

From my point of view the 300 and 302 didn't seem to offer much difference in perfomance, as I never thought the 302 was that great of a 1/2 ton truck motor. Then again, some say the same about the 300.

I've always loved the 351 F150's, just too rare around these parts and if found they were never in good enough shape for the right price. What year did/do you have?

Cheaper than a Ranger is amazing, but then again the Rangers (compact, not full size) were basically new (80's) to the market and this was probably why the cost was higher. Not sure, just making an assupmtion on this one.

Living in CO with the 300/F150, climbing passes with a load behind you was a little slow going at times, but I always knew the truck would get me there. I am one that does not care about being the first one there, just as long as I make it there safely with no problems.

Thanks for the comments, I try not to look like an idiot, but we all have our times. If I truly do not know, I'll ask and hopefully someone will shed some light on things for me. I know enough about the vehicles I've owned to get me by, but there is always more I can learn about them and others.

Thanks for chatting and sorry to hi-jack the thread. Hopefully we can get back on topic now.

Game on!
 
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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The rear end is a Dana 44, and what hurt them was Dana using cast spider gears. The 2006 uses a different design. If I have problems, I will pass along the info. Now if Ford would only fix the brake judder on my F150. Four times its been to the dealer, and after the last fix several weeks ago, everything seems ok...so far.
I am very interested in your feed back on your Titan purchase. Tell me what kind of option package you got with it?
 
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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Power, tires, etc etc...have nothing to do with it. It comes down to luck or skill.


https://www.ford-trucks.com/lc/lc.ph...C86A60241A.htm
 
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by xtrford
Power, tires, etc etc...have nothing to do with it. It comes down to luck or skill.


https://www.ford-trucks.com/lc/lc.ph...C86A60241A.htm
Actually, tires and traction play a big part into the tug-o-war. This video you posted, you'll notice the Dodge was winning until it started spinning it's tires. Once the traction was broke and tires started spinning, the little Bronco II won.

So think it's luck or skill, which I will admit the better driver in two equally equipped vehicles will win based on skill, but the majority of time it's who can hook up the tires better.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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thats a sweet video ford gets good traction. yes it was a frontier and I dont want to drive one. not if its gonan botom out like that. my 1998 would smoke it. so does a ranger. ive had 1700 pounds in my box and and I WAS NOT BOTTOMED OUT.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 93RangerXL4x2
thats a sweet video ford gets good traction. yes it was a frontier and I dont want to drive one. not if its gonan botom out like that. my 1998 would smoke it. so does a ranger. ive had 1700 pounds in my box and and I WAS NOT BOTTOMED OUT.
You are comparing a mini truck with a full sized truck. Different frame and springs, different powertrain. Different vehicle entirely. Using your logic, it's like comparing your 1/2 ton truck with a Super Duty. I have no idea whether a Ranger can "smoke" a Frontier, and neither do you. Look for a road test comparing the Ranger with a Frontier...let me know the reference when you find it.
 

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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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naaa its a waist of time. cause A ranger is a tough truck. I had one your right I compared to entilley different truck i compared a walnut, to a bowling ball. the walnut may crack under stress the bowling ball stays hard. the truck was slow, I passed him with 400 pounds of lumber in my box he may have thought i was crazy, but hey its a ford it runs harder.
 
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