I think they say that 80% of torque is available at 1000 rpm which gives 292 lb-ft. That is similar to the numbers available at 1000 rpm from other manufacturers' big V8's. The difference is that some of the new V8's (Endurance and 5.7 i-Force for example) have torque curves that climb higher and faster than the Triton's.

 

No matter what i would still choose a ford over anyother pick-up. And honestly the 5.4L V8 isn't that bad of an engine, unless you want to tow alot, and if you want to tow alot you should have bought a Superduty. But overall ford is still the pick-up truck market leader.

 

I have heard that for years from Ford truck owners and in all of Fords' Commercials "Best selling trucks in the US"......However, the sad truth is that GM sell more trucks than Ford, and has for quite a while. Ford sells more trucks than Chevy does. They sell more trucks than GMC. But when you add up the sales figures for Chevy/GMC as one unit (GM trucks), Ford pales in comparison. I'm not biased when it comes to vehicles, I own/drive Furds and Chebbys' and each one does what I ask it to. I just hate to see people being misled by false advertising and accepting it as the truth.

 

Watch the video again and listen. You'll notice they count down from 3 but the Chevy still has it's brakes on and the Ford starts spinning its tires. Once the Ford starts spinning, the Chevy then lets off the brake and goes. Of course by now the Chevy has better traction so it won. Simple logic.

I hate these tug-o-wars cause of a couple things. First and foremost, it's not always who has more power, but who has better traction. Secondly, was the Ford a 4.6L or 5.4L, and what did the Chevy have under the hood (5.3, 6.0)? What type of gears did the Ford have (3.55 or 3.73) compared to the Chevy? The F150 is a SuperCab while the Chevy is a CrewCab, giving the Chevy a weight advantage as well. Also, with this study being completed by a Chevy dealership, do you really think they'd let the Chevy lose?

EDIT: Look at the comments regarding this video. Just a bunch of little kids/teens not knowing what their talking about..

 

thats all there is to it.

 

sSales figures are not computed by combining brands. It's each individual model that is counted. GMC and Chevrolet are two different divisions of General Motors. Using your theory, I guess we better start counting F150's with Lincoln MK's, Silverado's with Canyon's, Rams with Sprinter's, Tacomas with Lexus RX330's, Titans with QX 56's. Maybe you should contact R. L. Polk and ask them to change the way they have been doing business for 90 years.


It's not false advertising...it's Truth in Advertising.

 

I understand what you're saying.....but you took my comment a little out of context, and tried to compare apples to oranges. If you compare apples to apples, (1/2 ton and above pickups) GM does outsell Ford. Notice I said GM, not Chevy or GMC, and pickups, not just any vehicle/ chassis /cab configuration. I've never really considered GMC and Chevy to be different brands. They are mechanically identical, and have been for the past 40+ years. I would consider it more of an "appearance package" difference myself.

I don't really consider all these new yuppie-aimed SUVs' "trucks". If I did I would have mentioned the sales figures for Cadillac and their entries into the fullsize SUV market, along with all the new Lincoln models. But then we get back to that whole apples to oranges thing again, don't we?

And as far as R.L. Polk is concerned, just because you've been doing something for 90 years doesn't mean you're doing it right!
Have a nice day!
David

 

McDonald sells the mosts cheeseburgers = must be the best lol!!! This arguement is soooo dumb!!! Thank God for choice, cuz i sure don't like driving the same thing as everyone else!!! Oh Btw, the Nissan Titan is the worst selling full size pickup on the market and after selling them for about a year, I would take an 06-07 titan any day over a half ton ford chevy or dodge.

 

That's just you.

 

Pickups and vans??? Pickups and SUV's??? Small trucks with small SUV's??

Sorry Bill, that doesn't even make sense.


As already stated, the GMC/Chevy are near identical.....If GM dropped one division, I guarantee the majority of GM owners would choose the remaining division.

And me, being as stubborn as you, am stuck on one reason people would pick a GM over a Ford.............powertrain, powertrain, powertrain.


Ford might as well add the LT........all 500 sold (I'm being facetious, my brother-in-law that works at Galpin leased one. Because of dealer cash, the payment was less than an F-150!!)


Now, a lot of people are saying power is over rated....mostly because we're currently bringing up the rear....but here's a story that may or may not be relevant:

My sister.....with the Husband who's management at the biggest Ford dealership in the country....had a 260 horse Expy to haul her 2 kids around. No real complaints....UNTILL the lease was up and they ended up with a new Suburban with 5.3 (don't ask)....she, without me even asking, wondered if there was something wrong with her old Expy. She couldn't believe the difference in responsiveness and seat of the pants power.

Suburban is gone and she now drives the LT....300HP and all. She still doesn't like the Ford power delivery.

We swapped vehicles recently....I needed the LT to make a run and left her the Lightning.

She asked why her truck didn't run like that!!!

People, we're talkin' a 39 year old mother of two.......Again, all you that say power is not important it's because we don't have it.

Ford has ALWAYS been +- a few horsepower motor to motor with the competition untill the Vortec in the mid 90's....since then, not only does GM own us.....even the German truck passed us up.

Bright spots are V10.....but gassers in big trucks are a dying breed unfortunately.



like you said, Bill, make an Eaton blower an option on EVERY Ford available.

Those who don't care about power don't need to buy one....those that do care can actually not pretend we're low on fuel the next time a pesky Titan challenges us at a light.......

Ford's new motto should be: We're here to chew bubblegum and kick butt....and we're all outta bubblegum."

Doesn't that sound better than, "We may have the lowest horsepower .....but at least we're slow!!"


Sorry for the looooong post.....I was bored.

 

I ask why, because I want to know why you think its a better over all truck.

I ask does it tow more? can it take a beating like a Ford! everyday.

 

Who knows??? It's only been out a couple years.

And while it may not have the MAX towing of one particular Ford model,
I GUARANTEE it'll tow its max much better than ANY F-150 will.


Here's another news flash...........NOT EVERYONE WHO BUYS A 1/2 TON TRUCK WORKS AT A CONSTRUCTION SITE AND TOWS STYROPHONE.


I have a little quiz for you..........what is a Ford F-150's MAX tow rating and what is the ONLY configuration that has that rating???

 

OK, GM Corporate outsells Ford Corporate inre to trucks...I'll give you that. But sales charts reflect not only the corporate count, but the individual brands. So, the F150 outsells the Chevy. If GMC was a brand of Chevrolet, then both could be counted as one.

R.L. Polk was hired by the AMA (Automobile Manufacturers Association) back in the early 20's to keep compile sales figures. So far, the AMA must be pleased with the way Polk is doing things, otherwise they would have gone elsewhere.

 

Of course it doesn't, but it makes about as much sense of counting both GMC and Chevrolet as the same brand. Yes they are lookalikes (prior to 2007), tho if I was buying one, the 2007 GMC's have it all over the fugly Chevy...but who wants a 5.3? The 6.0 isn't that much better with its overrated 367 HP that when dyno'd only makes 6 more HP (297 vs 291) at the rear wheels than a 317 HP Titan does. And the Titan has a 5 speed auto, not the ancient (think 1952) 4 speed auto transmission.


What do 2007 Impala's, La Crosses, and Grand Prix's have in common with the late Regals, Intrigues and prior Impala's and grand Prix's? Same-O Same-O since 1996, with only enough sheet metal changes to make them look different. Are they all counted as the same brand...well are they?


No.

GM, btw has finally seen the light inre to Dual OHC engines. M/T reports say they are spending 300 million to have one developed and ready by 2012. Too late? We'll see.

 

its 11,000 but they can all do that pretty much, and i dont agree that the Tundra will tow 9900, better than a Ford.