the taurus is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by freirefishing
DETROIT - Ford Motor Co. will rename its slow-selling Five Hundred model the Taurus, a name Ford previously used for a car that became the nation’s top-seller, two company officials said Tuesday.
Wow! Instead of laying off they need to be hiring someone with at least half a noodle.
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Originally Posted by FLgargoyle
Chrysler seemed to do OK with the '300'. Not many remember the original 300. Me, personally, I'm waiting for them to revive the Pinto...
First Chrysler 300 = 1955. Chrysler called it the C 300. 331ci REAL Hemi with Dual Quads. However, all that pop was undone by the 2 speed Powerflight Transmission. 6v electrics didn't help either, as vapor lock was a constant.
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Originally Posted by FLgargoyle
Chrysler seemed to do OK with the '300'. Not many remember the original 300. Me, personally, I'm waiting for them to revive the Pinto...
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From: Coweta,GA, GO DAWGS!!!!!!
been there, done that.
Originally Posted by Nitramjr
Until you have worked for a governmental agency where politics is rampant and somebody's nephew is looking for your job, I don't think you can say with any kind of knowledge that unions aren't needed in this country.
Have you ever had a union job? A non-union job?
Have you ever had a union job? A non-union job?
I spent 8 months working for a union just so they could tell me I couldn't have a conversation mith management without letting them know first. It cost me 12% of my weekly earnings. I left there and went to work for a company in the same feild for the same pay. I could actually talk with whoever I wanted when I wanted, On top of that I brought home $160 more/week. I'd still be at that company if wasn't working for myself.
MORAL OF THE STORY= Teamwork, not Teamsters!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by ag30265
I spent 8 months working for a union....It cost me 12% of my weekly earnings.... I left there and went to work for a company in the same feild for the same pay.
12% of your pay is insane if that was just dues. Was any of that going into a pension, health insurance, annuity, or any other benefit?
When you went to the other job, were you getting the same hourly rate as well as all the other fringes? If you were, then great. Something to consider though, do you think the new employer would be paying as much as he did if the union shops weren't around and/or he wasn't trying to prevent the guys from organizing? I'm not saying there aren't great non-union shops out there - there are. I've worked for them too.
But to your original point, unions are still a necessity and still certainly have a place in today's workplace. Maybe not everywhere since in a lot of cases state and federal rules and laws have been put inplace to prevent the abuses of the early 1900's but there is still more to be done.
JMO of course. Back to the topic for me now.
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I still think changing the name 500 to Taurus is dumb but some dumb ideas work. In this case the 500 has seriously lacked advertising so a change like this may help. On the other hand Taurus sales were slowing down.
The worst part of this renaming (if I've heard right) is the Milan. Now here's a car that Ford has spent a great deal of money advertising on and they want to change that too back to the Sable? The Milan should absolutly not be touched. Changing that name might actually hurt them.
The worst part of this renaming (if I've heard right) is the Milan. Now here's a car that Ford has spent a great deal of money advertising on and they want to change that too back to the Sable? The Milan should absolutly not be touched. Changing that name might actually hurt them.
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Originally Posted by OSin86
The worst part of this renaming (if I've heard right) is the Milan. Now here's a car that Ford has spent a great deal of money advertising on and they want to change that too back to the Sable? The Milan should absolutly not be touched. Changing that name might actually hurt them.
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
But the Taurus name is brand recognizable...who knows what a 500 is?
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Originally Posted by Nitramjr
Until you have worked for a governmental agency where politics is rampant and somebody's nephew is looking for your job, I don't think you can say with any kind of knowledge that unions aren't needed in this country.
Have you ever had a union job? A non-union job?
Have you ever had a union job? A non-union job?
Unions exist because of what you say, Nitramjr, but also because the entities under which they exist have very weak or non-existent management (under old-style definitions). The unions have taken on the functions of management to a large degree, as I see it.
Many training programs would not exist were it not for union support and involvement. In the case of the company I work for, there would be no way to change or adjust a vacation day or personal leave day (hmm...maybe without a union there'd be no such days to worry about). Once placed on the schedule (in December) you'd get what they gave you until next year. There would be no recourse when "payroll" messes something up. You'd eat the loss. There are many daily details that management can't be bothered with that the union looks after, without it there'd be mutiny in short order.
As much as I dislike civil service unions, I'd hate to see what it would be like trying to get a state job without someone half watching the system. Think of it.
I have little sympathy for those companies who are now finding it tough to pay the "legacy costs" today. They are no smarter now than they were when they agreed to all those benefits. No one held a shotgun to the negotiators heads when the agreements were made. Times were good and everyone, labor AND management shared in the good times. They made pi$$ poor agreements that were shortsighted and did not allow for drastic changes. On the management side they just slashed the jobs of there management brethern....it wasn't as easy to do on the labor side...partly because of faulty agreements.
And even now Ford, maybe others, want to "buy out" older workers. Not to reduce the workforce, particularly, but to replace them with less expensive workers. That sounds like a prudent thing to do if you're having $$ trouble. But wait until six months to a year after the older workers are replaced....whatever company pulls this off is going to experience a rash of quality control problems that will consume more than the savings the company enjoyed by getting rid of the old timers...you watch and see.
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