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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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Thanks metal....Heck...even the Nissan Titan owners with their 5.6L have the 4.10s!......

Personally, if I had a gas heavy-duty.....It would be a 4.10 or 4.30.....

Oops! Did I say the NT word?...(haha)
 
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cmpd1781
Alright....call ME stupid......I thought the gasser 250s and 350s nad 4.10 or 4.30 gears in 'em........thought only the diesels had the 3.73s.
OK, you're stupid.

My 5.4 came with 3.73 gears.

I guess I am not quite sure why everyone is up in arms about this rig. Excluding his engine, isnt this the same truck that can tow 15,000 pounds easily? Doesn't it have the same suspension, axles, steering and brakes?
 
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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OK, you're stupid.

My 5.4 came with 3.73 gears.

I guess I am not quite sure why everyone is up in arms about this rig. Excluding his engine, isnt this the same truck that can tow 15,000 pounds easily? Doesn't it have the same suspension, axles, steering and brakes?
I'll take it.....People don't expect as much from you when you're stupid....

 
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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I feel it's not the weight it can tow, it's the "combined" weight that I have a problem with. Fill the trailer up with water, food, and all the other goodies, load the family and other stuff in the truck and go roll over a CAT scale, and see what you weigh. Then go to the FORD dealer, show them the weight ticket and ask them if you are over weight. I'm sure the truck can tow a bunch more weight, hell my 64 F100 can tow that trailer, but would I?

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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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The reason the NEW super dities have a higher tow rating than your 02'...in 2005 Ford put a new frame and brakes under them....and other things as well. The fram rails are from the 550 for all super duties starting in 05. As well as a new transmission.
 
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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READ the posting from Ford I put in.....it tells you. There are all kinds of resources here to answer questions about buid...towing capacities. Ya don't need to ask a damn salesman...they are born to lie.....well most of em. I was one...for a short time.
 
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DFord79
READ the posting from Ford I put in.....it tells you. There are all kinds of resources here to answer questions about buid...towing capacities. Ya don't need to ask a damn salesman...they are born to lie.....well most of em. I was one...for a short time.
I can't seem to get your link to work. I'd like to see what it says.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by metalman1320
I can't seem to get your link to work. I'd like to see what it says.
Copy and paste..if that don't work....Go to www.fordvehilces.com and get to the commercial area...the click on towing capacities.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/...07_default.asp

and try this one.
 
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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for some damn reason...clicking on the links in these replies isnt working...go to www.fordvehicle.com type it in your browser..then commercial trucks..then towing guides...its has all the towing guides from 02...to 08
 
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cmpd1781
Alright....call ME stupid......I thought the gasser 250s and 350s nad 4.10 or 4.30 gears in 'em........thought only the diesels had the 3.73s.

That's a shortbed?.....I guess they CAN pull a 5th-wheel.......I've heard the long-bed recommended for this.

Any other misconceptions you "gurus" can point out to me?....(haha)

Good luck to the original poster....That DOES look like a bit much for the truck....

I learn something new every day
I pull a 32 ft Jayco 5th wheel with my truck and it's an 2006 6.0 Extended Cab Shortbed..........I have a slide hitch installed in mine. Works just fine as long as you pay attention to what you're doing.

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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DFord79
for some damn reason...clicking on the links in these replies isnt working...go to www.fordvehicle.com type it in your browser..then commercial trucks..then towing guides...its has all the towing guides from 02...to 08
Try this:
http://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/r...07_default.asp
 
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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Come back and talk to us after towing that thing up and down some hills for a while. That 5.4 is gonna be wiped out from all the screaming it has to do and all that screaming is gonna put a hurting on that 4R100 as well. An F-150 could pull that rig around for a while as well, but it would take one hell of a beating doing it. Manufacturers put weight ratings on for a reason. Realistically you are probably not overtaxing the frame of the truck or the brake system, as the F-250 and F-350 have the same system. And yes the pin weight is included in the trailer GVW figure. The pin weight is just to tell you specifically that, how much weight is being placed down on the pin, same as tongue weight, so if the trailer total GVW is 11,385 that is the total weight loaded. Even 4k over weight is alot.
 
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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...all that screaming is gonna put a hurting on that 4R100 as well...
Is the 4R100 in that truck the same 4R100 used behind a V-10 or a PSD?
 
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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11385 trailer weight, 1980 pinbox weight = 13365 pounds behind a bone stock 2002 F-250 with the 5.4L 4R100 and 3.73 gears.

I wasn't winning any races, but I wasn't worried either.

I love my truck!

Oh yeah my tow rating from ford is 7100. Oops!

So just how many gallons to the mile do you GET when you're pulling that rig, anyway

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