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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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88 E350 ECM relay

How many wires should measure 12v (or make the test light go off) on the ECM Relay connector when the key is in the RUN position?

Im only getting one, is this correct?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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No. three should be hot.
Here is a diagram:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...el1988E150.gif
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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Okay, that seems to be my problem. I only have 1 hot wire (12v) I am measuring using a test lamp at this time.

I can't get continuity on 3 terminals on the relay however, and im only getting 12v from one connector on the relay plug.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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What relay pin has power on it?
Relay:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...anel/Relay.jpg
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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My relay looks nothing like that at all.

My pins aren't staggered, their in a straight line. I have three in one row, two in another.

[] - Red [] - Black/Orange
[] - Red/Green [] - Nothing connected to this pin.
[] - Black/Green
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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Another image:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...el/relay02.jpg

30 BK/O From Fuse Link at Starter Sol.
87 Red Power to EEC Compute, Fuel Pump Relay and so on.
86 R/LG From Ignition Switch
85 BK/LG Ground wire to Neg Battery Post.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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[] - Red (Hot when Relay made) [] - Black/Orange (From Str. Sol. F. L.)
[] - Red/Green (Hot when Ingition on) [] - Nothing connected to this pin.
[] - Black/Green (Ground to Neg Post)
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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I dont know what the problem is, im getting two 12v sources if I manually make the relay work, but even then, the engine wont start when cranked. When I turn the key on to RUN, nothing at all happens.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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You've checked all the fuses both under the hood and in the fuse box? What about power to the coil? Do you have any voltage at all at the coil?
 
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All the fuses and fusible links are good. Verified twice.

Not sure about power to the coil. Im still trying to figure out why turning my ignition key on will not activate the ECM relay. However, when I activate it myself, it looks like all is well but the engine will not start.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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Check for power at the coil. If the TFI module has failed (what it sounds like) then you won't get power the ECU or fuel pump. It all hinges on that little ICM.....
 
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I dont know what the problem is, im getting two 12v sources if I manually make the relay work, but even then, the engine wont start when cranked. When I turn the key on to RUN, nothing at all happens.
Sounds like you are not getting any power from the Ignition Switch.
More than likely you have lost the fuse link G down behind the battery and fender.
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subford: How do I verify for certain Im not getting any power from the ignition switch?

pfogle: what is the TFI? I've replaced the module with the big black plug that sits on the side of the distributor already. Which one are you talking about and where is it located?
 
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subford: How do I verify for certain Im not getting any power from the ignition switch?
Does the Radio play and go off and on with the key?
If yes you are getting power, if not you are not.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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I can't say, I dont have a radio. Its a cargo van that was stripped for bucket installation, and the radio was one of the things they took out for some reason. I can tell you that the engine cranks over, and the gauges on the dash move when the key is turned on, such as battery voltage, and fuel.

As pfogle mentioned the TFI, I found a picture of one and it is in fact the electric distributor mounted module.

Now, I do know for a fact that the screw that is closest to the connector has since disappeared. Could this be related? Could it not be grounding because the screw is missing?
 
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