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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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Do you have power on the + (POS) side of the Ignition Coil with the key on?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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You have a diagram of the ignition coil that tells me what pin I need power on with the ignition on?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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You have a diagram of the ignition coil that tells me what pin I need power on with the ignition on?
Do you have power on either on with the key on?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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Im not sure. I haven't checked anything at the TFI/ICM module.

I do know that the screw in front of it is now missing, would that cause this problem? Someone else who owned the van before me must've lost the original screw. The only screw in it is in the back of the module so its kinda loose on the front. I saw a diagram of the TFI but I can't find it anywhere anymore, you got one?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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I do not have 12v on any pin on the connector that connects to the ICM/TFI.

Even when I manually operated the ECU relay, I still have no 12v source on the TFI connector at all, on any pins.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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I do not have 12v on any pin on the connector that connects to the ICM/TFI.

Even when I manually operated the ECU relay, I still have no 12v source on the TFI connector at all, on any pins.
Unplug it from the TFI Module and see if you have power then.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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I did unplug it, I dont have power to any of the connectors, even when I manually activated the ECU.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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I did unplug it, I dont have power to any of the connectors, even when I manually activated the ECU.
Try it in the start position and see if you power then.
I think you may have lost the resistance wire from the Ignition Switch to the Ignition System.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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I dont think I have it in the start position either. When I manually activated the ECU relay and cranked it over, I had no fire at all. It didn't even attempt to start, just cranked over. No spark at all.

Where is this resistance wire and how do I fix it? Easy to get to or?
Any other possible scenario?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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If you do not have it in Start or run and other items work when you turn on the key then you have to have a bad Ignition Switch or plug.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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Any way I can rig up a couple toggle switches to get 12v where I need it so the damn ECU, Fuel Pump, and ICM will work so I can drive this damn thing?
 
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 12:23 AM
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Im wondering if it could still be the ECU relay. I can see the actuator rod moving the parts in the ignition SWITCH module on the bottom of the steering column. Could it be a fusible link maybe? Perhaps the one you mentioned behind the battery?
 
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 07:08 AM
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Im wondering if it could still be the ECU relay. I can see the actuator rod moving the parts in the ignition SWITCH module on the bottom of the steering column. Could it be a fusible link maybe? Perhaps the one you mentioned behind the battery?
If the one behind the battery was bad nothing would happen when you turn the key and all power through the Ignition switch goes through this fuse link.
If you do not have power at any wire with a test light at the plug of the TFI module (pin #4, V. power) you will not have power to the coil of the EEC Power Relay (ECU relay) or the Ignition Coil and the fuel injectors.
Are you sure that you are getting the test light ground clip grounded?
 
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Here is two photos that may help.
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...88E-Series.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9.../TFIVPower.jpg
 
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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Yes, the test light clip was grounded. I test it on the positive terminal on the battery first to make sure, then go about my testing. I had no power on the TFI connector at all.
 
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