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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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I've got my ignition switch out, any diagrams or testing procedures to see if this is in fact the problem?
 
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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Here is the Diagram of the Ignition System You wanted:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...ionEseries.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g91/subford/Electrical/Ignition/TFIModule.gif
 

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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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Got any ideas on how I can test my ignition switch to make sure that is in fact the problem? I can't see anything evidently wrong with it. The plastic arm moves as it should but I have no real way of testing it to be sure it is in fact bad.

Maybe a test can be performed on one pin testing contiunity on another, perhaps the wire that supposed to supply voltage to the ECU/FPR/TFI module? Any ideas?
 
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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Got any ideas on how I can test my ignition switch to make sure that is in fact the problem? I can't see anything evidently wrong with it. The plastic arm moves as it should but I have no real way of testing it to be sure it is in fact bad.

Maybe a test can be performed on one pin testing contiunity on another, perhaps the wire that supposed to supply voltage to the ECU/FPR/TFI module? Any ideas?
Here is the diagram of the Ignition Switch:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...hSchematic.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...IgnitionSw.gif
 
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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Okay, so if I'm correct, I should have continuity on at least 3/4 pins while in the run position on the ignition switch itself?
 
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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Okay, so if I'm correct, I should have continuity on at least 3/4 pins while in the run position on the ignition switch itself?
I have no idea what you are talking about.
Can you rephrase it.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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According to the schematic you should have continuity between pin 37BAT (on the .gif image it's the 'BATT' terminal on the switch) and all of the ones labeled either A or I.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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I will check this tomorrow and report back. Im not quite sure but Im fairly certain I don't have continuity on all of the A/I terminals as I should.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 06:32 AM
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I have continuity where I should on the switch. What next?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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Check for continuity from I1 & I2 to BATT (POS, +) side of the Ignition Coil or Pin #3 of TFI Module plug.
The wire will be Red with a Green stripe in the engine compartment and the same at the I1 terminal but brown at the I2 terminal.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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New ignition switch installed, no results. Same problem. No fuel pump or ECU coming on when the key is on.

Could it be the ECU relay itself? It doesn't click or come on when the key is on. I have to manuall activate it. Is there any extensive testing I can do on the ECU relay or do you think it might be something else?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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New ignition switch installed, no results. Same problem. No fuel pump or ECU coming on when the key is on.

Could it be the ECU relay itself?
No, if you do not have 12 VDC at pin #3 of TFI Module Plug (a Red wire with a Green stripe) or the + (POS/BATT) side of the coil the EEC (ECU) Power Relay will not work.
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It doesn't click or come on when the key is on. I have to manuall activate it. Is there any extensive testing I can do on the ECU relay or do you think it might be something else?
You have to somehow get power to circuit #16 the Red wire with a Green stripe before it will activate.

Do you have power at the two yellow wires at the Ignition Switch?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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Yes, both yellow wires in the ignition switch plug are live. 12 volts.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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Is it possible that the ECU is dead? (The computer itself)

That wouldn't make sense because I can manually close the relay. Is there an alternative to getting 12v to the red wire with the green stripe? If I can get 12v to the red/green wire, will that allow the vehicle to run?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Is it possible that the ECU is dead? (The computer itself)
It is possible but it would have nothing to do with the problem you are having.
You can unplug the EEC Computer, (not sure why you keep calling it an ECU) and you will still get spark.

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Is there an alternative to getting 12v to the red wire with the green stripe? If I can get 12v to the red/green wire, will that allow the vehicle to run?
If the EEC and EEC power relays are OK and you put 12V on the red wire with the green stripe it should run. You need the EEC Computer to turn on the fuel pumps and fire the injectors.
 
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