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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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Cold weather starting/noises....??s

06 F-150 5.4 4x4


Lately it has been cold about 5 above or so. When starting my truck I will hear like a high pitched whine coming from the engine bay area...But it does not do it every time. One time I started it, it made the noise, went to get in it agian about 2 hours or so later and it was fine. Sounds like a belt to me…..?!?! And it will also fade out after a while of running.

And then (I have even noticed this when it was about 40 out), when first starting the truck for the first time in a while (like a few hours) it makes a cling clag noise like something is loose or is jiggling around. I can hear it really good through the driver’s side wheel well. No clue on what this could be.

O and by the way, my dad has the same truck and his does not make any of these noises.


Thanks for any help

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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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06 F-150 5.4 4x4


Lately it has been cold about 5 above or so. When starting my truck I will hear like a high pitched whine coming from the engine bay area...But it does not do it every time. One time I started it, it made the noise, went to get in it agian about 2 hours or so later and it was fine. Sounds like a belt to me…..?!?! And it will also fade out after a while of running.

And then (I have even noticed this when it was about 40 out), when first starting the truck for the first time in a while (like a few hours) it makes a cling clag noise like something is loose or is jiggling around. I can hear it really good through the driver’s side wheel well. No clue on what this could be.

O and by the way, my dad has the same truck and his does not make any of these noises.


Thanks for any help

Josh
I have a 2002 with the 4.6 and it makes the same squealing sound on first starts on real cold days. It's the power steering pump. Try a synthetic Mercon and most likely your noise will go away.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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I have a 2002 with the 4.6 and it makes the same squealing sound on first starts on real cold days. It's the power steering pump. Try a synthetic Mercon and most likely your noise will go away.
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It is not the power steering pump..The whine is happening when it is first started and is idling, not moving...

My last two trucks (97,02 f150) had the power steering whine so I know what that sounds like...
 
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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My guess would be a belt or idler pulley. It happens. You could try belt dressing, or wait till it get's worse and change the belt/pulley. I have a bad idler pulley that squeels for the first 10 mins in the morning.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 08:31 PM
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Thanks for the replies.

I will look into the belt dressing, the noise is more annoying if anything. I Can stand little noises....lol

Any body have an idea on the other noise?

Another way to describe it would be like nails in a tin can being shook around..

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Thanks for the replies.

I will look into the belt dressing, the noise is more annoying if anything. I Can stand little noises....lol

Any body have an idea on the other noise?

Another way to describe it would be like nails in a tin can being shook around....And when it does it it only last for about 2 or 3 seconds.

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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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06 F-150 5.4 4x4


Lately it has been cold about 5 above or so. When starting my truck I will hear like a high pitched whine coming from the engine bay area...But it does not do it every time. One time I started it, it made the noise, went to get in it agian about 2 hours or so later and it was fine. Sounds like a belt to me…..?!?! And it will also fade out after a while of running.

And then (I have even noticed this when it was about 40 out), when first starting the truck for the first time in a while (like a few hours) it makes a cling clag noise like something is loose or is jiggling around. I can hear it really good through the driver’s side wheel well. No clue on what this could be.

O and by the way, my dad has the same truck and his does not make any of these noises.


Thanks for any help

Josh



your "cling clang" noise is coming from the hydraulic lifters. as you get some wear on the engine the lifters tend to bleed oil or loose pressure after it has sat for awhile. when you start the engine, you hear the metal on metal contact of the lifters for a few seconds . . like a tapping noise. . . then goes away when the oil system pressurizes.

I've noticed after an oil change i don't hear the noise for a few thousand miles.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 04:15 AM
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my 04 had the same whine on cold start up. turned out to be the clutch fan. it only did it when the air temp was below 35 deg. and the truck sat a while. took a while to figure out when it was doing it so the dealer could duplicate the noise. dealer changed the fan under warrentee.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 06:15 AM
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Is this noise thats being produced by the lifters normal for a truck with only 15,000 miles? Mine does for 3 to 4 seconds very briefly on cold mornings.
 
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Originally Posted by mjsparky363
my 04 had the same whine on cold start up. turned out to be the clutch fan. it only did it when the air temp was below 35 deg. and the truck sat a while. took a while to figure out when it was doing it so the dealer could duplicate the noise. dealer changed the fan under warrentee.
Did yours do it every time?

becuse mine will only do it after it has been started and then sat a while.

This moring it was about 9 above out stated it, and it did not make the whinne...
 

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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by FX4dude
your "cling clang" noise is coming from the hydraulic lifters. as you get some wear on the engine the lifters tend to bleed oil or loose pressure after it has sat for awhile. when you start the engine, you hear the metal on metal contact of the lifters for a few seconds . . like a tapping noise. . . then goes away when the oil system pressurizes.

I've noticed after an oil change i don't hear the noise for a few thousand miles.

That noise I can live with, it is the other that bugs me...
I am due for my first oil change, so I will see if that helps
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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My power steering pump makes noise whenever I start a cold engine in tempetures of -20c or colder. The colder it is the longer it lasts and louder it seems to get.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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About the whine. My 04 5.4 did the same thing. I took it to the ford place and they told me it was the belt. they was going to charge me over $100 to replace. I went to the local parts store, got the belt and replaced it. Took all of 15 minutes. No more problems.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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I'm saying belt. Belts have more tendency to squeal when cold. My truck had a belt squeal when I bought it new. I had the dealer replace it and the tensioner pulley. It fixed it for a little while. Mine would squeal when it would shift gears at high rpms. The new belt only lasted 5k miles and it squeal again <XXX smilieid='\\\\\"9\\\\\"' alt='\\\\\"\\\\\"' src="http://images.ford-trucks.com/forums/images/smilies/mad.gif" border="0">Oh well, I'm just going to buy a goodyear and not worry about it any more.

Don't try to fix it with belt dressing, it don't really fix anything, just make a mess out of everything. Your under warranty let the dealer fix it and if it comes back by a better belt. Ford belts suck.
 
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