Refueling problems F250 SD 06

<HR style="COLOR: #666666" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->I'm having problems refueling above mentioned [font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif][font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]truck[/font][/font], the station gas pump keeps shutting off constantly. Try to run gas pump at slowest automatic setting and pump nozzle shuts off. Eventually I have to hold nozzle and barely squeeze handle, takes ten mintues to fill tank. Sometimes if I hold nozzle just right and the moon is in a certain phase it seem to fill tank faster but most of time it's stop and start fueling. Tubing does not appear to be bent or flattened, appears to be nearly level from [font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif][font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]filler [/font][font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]cap[/font][/font] to fuel tank.
I typically run tank nearly empty and then re-fill tank completely, average one tank full everyday or every other day.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

Read some threads on Harpoon? but that seems to be concerning putting more gas into tank. I just want to put gas into tank at a reasonable rate and not smell all the gas fumes in doing it....

RR

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take it into the dealer ,sounds like you have a vent tube problem(evap pugre solenoid)
Rich

 

Harpoon mod fixes the issue of putting in the last 4 or more gallons into your tank.

 

yeah your truck probably pissed at you and doesnt want to drive any more....thats alot of driving nearly 500 miles a day WOW

 

a 6 year thread resurrection ...

last fall, I bought an F250 XL ... refueling is a nightmare. There's an anti-siphon ball I removed but all that did was allow fuel to blow out of the neck when the nozzle trips off.

I note the hose is nearly horizontal & actually appears to rise just at the point it attaches to the tank.

Does anyone have a fix for this problem? When you get 12 mpg, refuel happens.

Thanks

Al
shaark92@yahoo.com

 

Since you resurrected the thread, I just want to say that no one should harpoon a gas tank. That is a diesel tank only operation.

I assume you have a gasser. The problem is with your evap recovery system, and there is even a TSB on how to replace the canister with a new design to solve the issue. I think it might even relocate the canister, but I don't recall the details. Also, sometimes it is just a matter of cleaning spiders out of the tubing.

 

this is wierd we are having the same problem with our 02 V10 F250. We haven't fixed it yet we were just dealing with it.
Trav

 

Thanks Bill ...

Yessir a 5.4 gas engine. I'm a 5+ year member over at "the diesel stop" Have had a 2000 F350 7.3 since '07 & I need to harpoon that thing ... but I figured this forum might have more gasser types ... response on this site has been better than the gasser section of TDS ... though I cannot locate the "signature" in the "User CP!" here at FTE

I wondered if this problem could be caused by the vapor recovery system ... if it kept a vacuum on the tank &/or >ambient pressure in the filler neck.

It's a REAL hassle trying to refuel this thing ... and I'm not terribly impressed w/ the 5.4's pulling for the mileage it produces. If I'd known it'd not get better than 13 empty, I'd have sought the bigger motor. I had a '93 C1500 w/ a 5.7 TBI before the F350 & the Chevy pulled MUCH better than this 5.4 ... would also get 19-20 mpg empty.

It's primary use is to pull a 16' cattle trailer with 4-5 show calves. (the PSD tows the travel trailer) It struggles ... especially into a headwind. I knew it wouldn't pull like the F350's 7.3 ... but good grief! It's also going to be my driver trainer for my 15 year old.

Anyhow ... I've got it & we'll use it ... but I sure do need to fix this refueling problem. I'll contact my service department about the TSB. I don't want to put a lot of money into this thing, but I don't care to continue spending 20 minutes & getting splashed w/ ethanol musk while refueling.

Al

 

Here is the TSB I mentioned.
http://www.justanswer.com/uploads/fo..._Slow_fill.pdf

What I didn't remember is that it was for the later '05 and up trucks. Still, I think it serves to show that the slow fuel fill is related to a plugged vacuum evap system.

 

That's IT!

Now to locate this canister!

Al

 

I just had my F250 5.4 fixed. Cost is a little over $1200.00. It was the evap. can. They also installed a vent tube. Evap can $472, vent tube $212 Labor $400

 

Thx

Jweb

That's a lot of money for a design issue. I think I'll pass.

 

on top of the spare tire carrier

 

Mine has always had this problem. However, if I turn the fuel nozzle clockwise, to a horizontal position, and rest it on the fuel door, it never kicks off and I can leave it set on the 2nd click while filling. Works perfectly every time.