GMC has gotten most of the bugs out of their new diesel. Now it is Ford's turn. Ford might have to get someone else to build a 6.0?

Forget the 7.3. It's history The EPA fixed that for good.

A quite diesel is what we all want. On long trips the diesel noise will drive you crazy. Had to change from a cummins to a Power Stroke so my wife could talk on the cell phone when we traveled.

The diesel is the future for a working truck and Ford dealers are the best in the country. Now all we need is a good size diesel car aor put a diesel in the Escape or Explorer.

Jimmy

 

I built one of the F750's on the website and it cost me $93K I will never need one but that seems expensive. Our big trucks cost from $125K to $175K but then again they have an 80,000lb GVW.

 

I sorry to say I had a 6.5

 

I'm sorry to say I owned a 6.5. I had to take it to the dealership 12 times to fix the same problem. The district service manager told me that upper managment had decided to not fix the fuel pumps under warranty. At 148,000 miles it shut off and would not start up I took it to the same dealership and paid $1,627.00 and the same service man fixed it this time. I put 280,000 miles on it after that with no problems. It shows that it could have been fixed under warranty. I now drive a Ford F250 PDS 92.000 miles and never even looked at the dealership. I did test drive the Duramax and it did have more accerlation but for the same options they wanted $6,000.00 more. I told the GMC and Chevy Dealers that if they would knock off the $6,000.00 plus the $1.627.00 I might would be there gunni pig I had no takers. I think the extra $6,000.00 is so that GM can provide full warranty on that new motor. I paid $36,666.66 on 06/30/91 the only options that I can find that it does not have is duel alt.and clearance lights. Both Chevy and GMC, would not come off of $42,500.00
The best way to tell how good all these brands are is to go to a truck stop and look at how many come in off the interstate. Out of 100 you will see 85 fords 11 dodges and 4 GMs. NUFF SAID.

 

Being a former Chebby. 6.5 owner and now being a PSD owner I can say without question that the PSD is the finest engine I have owned. I pull a 35 foot 5th Wheel camper with it and now would never consider another truck. I thought about waiting for the 6.0 but decided to stay with the tried and true 7.3. Good decision on my part.
Would I consider the newer deisels.....well maybe one day but they will have to prove themselves out on the road where the 7.3 has done all of its work.
I now call myself a proud Powerstroke owner and Ford lover.
By the way my little run around truck is a 97 Ford Ranger with 69 thousand miles and no problems yet. Knock on wood. The new truck is a 2003 F350 DRW, Supercab, long bed. Wheeeeeeeeee let the fun begin.

 

To all you hardcore american fans, a german invented the diesel. I am american myself but the japs have invented some amazing things such as the rotary engine. Why don't all americans just admit that were not the best at everything except bragging

 

Yes a German invented the Diesel motor, or rather cylinder heads. I don't now of a single jap with the last name Wankel, the german guy that invented the Rotory (thats even how you spell it) hence the Wankel Rotory. A german guy even invented the internal combustion engine. I think it was Karl Benz.

 

Heh, this is an old topic. I have three things to say first. GO GERMANY for one, Japan isn't so bad for two, and I LOVE PSD's for three. My dad owns a 2002 7.3L PSD Excursion w/ K&N intake, 4" straight exhaust (no CAT or muffler) with a 3.5" downpipe, a fuel injector pressure mod that brings pressure at the injectors from something like 6k to 16k pressure at the turn of a variable dial, plus a Superchips Power Programmer. Hi-Perf mode of course. Well, I just barely got my permit and am used to driving a 1892 err... 1982 (lol) 4-banger Toyota Tercel Stationwagon. It's a great learning car, very reliable and such. It still runs with 183k miles on it. BTW its a gasser. Well, anyway, it had 90 HP when new so as can be expected, its gotten weaker over the years. To get to the point, I'm used to having to floor it and pop the clutch to get it to start moving. Well, when my dad let me drive the Excursion, being the doofus I am, I floored it to get it moving. Well, I hopped in, started it up (and observed the body torque hehe) and rolled it down the driveway. After properly angling it in the road, still using reverse momentum, I stopped it. I then moved the stick from N to D. Still applying the brake, I gave it some juice and, as could be expected, the body started torquing. This, along with my dads forceful "Well GO already!" surprised me enough for me in a nervous twitch to slam down the accelerator and let the brake out. SQUEEEEEEEEEEEELL!!!!!!! I lit those tire up good heh. I was going to let off when suddenly the turbo kicks in and I was rammed back in my seat. DANG that thing can get up and go lol. Well, anyway, my dad had gotten into a heated debate over the whole Duramax vs. PSD with a Chevy man so they decided to do a 2 mile drag. The Duramax had a little more mod'ing than our PSD but my dad and I were confident. We took off from that line like a bat out of hell but the Duramax pulled in front of us, accelerating a bit faster. NOTE: At this point, I noticed some greyish smoke starting to come out of the Max's exhaust. I poked my dads shoulder and he noticed it too. This was followed by a large BANG and then thick black and grey smoke started pouring out of the Max's exhaust. The truck rapidly decelerated for about a second before the driver rammed the brakes in. Now, I never found out exactly what happened, but I heard he had to spend a few thousand on repairing it. Thing was, the Max had 8k less miles on it than our PSD. Plus, I really don't like that quieter sound and I've heard plenty of tales of despair about the Max.


Now, I'm not saying the Duramax is some sort of evil to never be payed attention to, but I am saying that I've only ever seen bad happen to them. Now the 7.3L, my dad and I have not had any problems with other than a gasket failing in the high-pressure oil lines, but that was covered by warranty. Now, I have also heard stories of 6.0L PSD's blowing their turbos at roughly 1k miles, and of dealerships having to replace large numbers of entire engines. So basically I guess what my long post is really trying to say is that the Dura and new PSD both more than likely have great great potential, but just arent kings of the hill now.

BTW, I'm not a seasoned expert like a lot of you so if what I'm saying seems stupid or out of place, try to let me know without making me look like a buffoon even if I am

 

Hey Typrus thats agreat post. You made a lot of good points there. As far as my opinion Im not going to say. We all know the new 6.0 has had some problems. The real story comes from the mechanics that have worked on these engines. They are the ones that have worked on them and know what problems they have had.

 

problems?
what problems?

i know of no current problematic areas on the 6.0l

if you do, please advise.....

 

Oh MAN that was a good one.. I heard the Fish and Wildlife division here in NC is trying to get a Contract with Ford to take all their buy backs and problematic 6.0's off their hands and use them for fish habitat, Unfortunately theres not enough lakes here ??

 

I agree, Matt's post was funny. Or at least I hope it was in jest. Any trip over to the 6.0 forums should adequately point out all the problem areas.

 

Using this criteria, I can say the same about the 6.0. I'm the only one I personally know that owns one and it's had nothing but bad happen to it.

 

You'all know what ( FORD) really stands for, Freqently- Overtaking- Rattling- Duramax's.

Have a good day boys

John in Tampa

 

Good thing this is the Ford Truck Enthusiast Site, isn't it ?!?!

Sorry, but eventually you'll learn that ANY generality is wrong in some cases !

I'll put my Ex up against ANY vehicle out there !

Let's see:
more hp and torque than most,
faster than most,
safer than most,
tows more than most,
rides better than most,
hauls more people comfortably than most,
better looking than most, (mu opinion of course)

And gets better mileage than many !

Now all these are generalities... are they all true ?
In my opinion, yes... and in many cases quantifiable and provable !

Ya'll have a nice day, ya hear !