Powerstroke vs. Duramax
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Why don't you all get the facts first before just ragging on something. I like Ford and Chevy(i just like Chevy a little more) but im not trying to start anything, we all know it would never end anyways. Im proud of my country....but, just because something is made here in the great U-S-of-A doesn't mean its better. All I ask is that you look at the facts first.
#1 We keep our jobs when we buy American. #2 The Duramax block is aluminum (go figure). #3 The Duramax fuel economy STINKS. #4 Chevy has no ground clearance to speek of. #5 Chevys 4X4 stransfer system also stinks.
I'm sure I and many others could go on. Well, thats my two cents. :-)
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#1I don't know a sinlge person who has ever ben threatened to loose their job by buying a jap product, if overseas is better, buy overseas. Bill Gates is american, does that mean he is the best business owner in the world? probbably not.#2 apparently that aluminum block has ben holding up pretty good.#3The Powestroke fuel economy stinks, its a bigger engine and it has less power. #4Chevy ground clearance is what, a whole 2inches below the fords? are you really going to notice that when you look under the truck without a tape measure? Ground clearence is not the only thing that makes a good off-roader.#5If it can handle the engine its good enough.
I'm not trying to say every little detail about ford sucks, but please, get usefull information.
I'm not trying to say every little detail about ford sucks, but please, get usefull information.
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#1I don't know a sinlge person who has ever ben threatened to loose their job by buying a jap product, if overseas is better, buy overseas.
People who say it can't be done should not interrupt the person doing it.
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I see it this way:
Powerstroke is made by an American company that builds heavy equipment.
Duracrap is made by a company that builds crappy little SUVs that could easily be run over by any Ford Super Duty.
Plus the Powerstroke is easier to customize and has the sound of a diesel, anyone who wants a diesel without sound is a wuss.
Powerstroke is made by an American company that builds heavy equipment.
Duracrap is made by a company that builds crappy little SUVs that could easily be run over by any Ford Super Duty.
Plus the Powerstroke is easier to customize and has the sound of a diesel, anyone who wants a diesel without sound is a wuss.
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#4Chevy ground clearance is what, a whole 2inches below the fords? are you really going to notice that when you look under the truck without a tape measure? Ground clearence is not the only thing that makes a good off-roader.#5If it can handle the engine its good enough.
4. Trust me, you can notice a few inches, otherwise people wouldn't spend so much money on mere 2-3" lift kits. It may not be the ONLY thing that makes a good offroader, but it is CRUCIAL.
5. Do you want a truck that's just "good enough," or do you want the best? If you're willing to settle for mediocre, go ahead and buy a POS Chevy.
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#1I don't know a sinlge person who has ever ben threatened to loose their job by buying a jap product, if overseas is better, buy overseas. Bill Gates is american, does that mean he is the best business owner in the world? probbably not.#2 apparently that aluminum block has ben holding up pretty good.#3The Powestroke fuel economy stinks, its a bigger engine and it has less power. #4Chevy ground clearance is what, a whole 2inches below the fords? are you really going to notice that when you look under the truck without a tape measure? Ground clearence is not the only thing that makes a good off-roader.#5If it can handle the engine its good enough.
I'm not trying to say every little detail about ford sucks, but please, get usefull information.
I'm not trying to say every little detail about ford sucks, but please, get usefull information.
2. The block is iron the heads are aluminum, and there have already been several cases of premature head gasket failure.
3. Just did an 1100 mi. round trip to KC and back, averaged 19.1 mpg.
4. Yes
5. There is no such thing as good enough, the aftermarket would not exist if there was.
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I realy hate to say this.
There is no American Car or Truck companies any more.
They are all multi-national. Hell, I think Ford owns at least one company on every continent.
What I want, and will never have, is a real truck. You know, like they used to make that was real TOUGH. I want a truck that if I punch it with my fist it's not going to do $1000 worth of damage to the truck.
It used to be, that a truck was a real hairy chested vehicle, now it's more of a drag queen.
There is no American Car or Truck companies any more.
They are all multi-national. Hell, I think Ford owns at least one company on every continent.
What I want, and will never have, is a real truck. You know, like they used to make that was real TOUGH. I want a truck that if I punch it with my fist it's not going to do $1000 worth of damage to the truck.
It used to be, that a truck was a real hairy chested vehicle, now it's more of a drag queen.
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I think this is the most pathetic thing I have ever seen. The Duramax seems to be a pretty good engine. I would love to see a stock super duty run over an SUV. Besides, if isuzu makes a good diesel, they make a good diesel. Ford made a pinto, isuzu makes small cars(and they can be very fuel efficent). GM is an american company, about as american as you can get. What I have read is that the plans for the duramax are PART ISUZU PART GM, that doesn't mean for certain that the duramax sucks just because it is made in japan, it might even be made in america.
Make your choice, same power in 7.3L or 6.6L, I think I'll go with the 6.6L.
In fact I personally believe that this is just a bunch of people who have rcognized the Duramax is better and are ready to discreminate about everything that might effect the engine after it has 200000+ miles on it.
Logan
Make your choice, same power in 7.3L or 6.6L, I think I'll go with the 6.6L.
In fact I personally believe that this is just a bunch of people who have rcognized the Duramax is better and are ready to discreminate about everything that might effect the engine after it has 200000+ miles on it.
Logan
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Hmmm, guy that drives a ford, posting on a ford website to all the ford guys about how great the new chevy engine is. Methinks we are not the pathetic ones, nor will we ever be jealous of something with a nine letter swear word on the tailgate.
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The Duramax SEEMS to be a PRETTY GOOD engine.
Ford made a pinto, isuzu makes small cars(and they can be very fuel efficent).
Besides, if isuzu makes a good diesel, they make a good diesel.
GM is an american company, about as american as you can get. What I have read is that the plans for the duramax are PART ISUZU PART GM,
that doesn't mean for certain that the duramax sucks just because it is made in japan,
it might even be made in america.
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According to GM's web site, the Duramax IS made here in the United States and both the block and heads are aluminum. It seems like I read somewhere that it is made in Moraine Ohio.