6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van

Fuel Additive

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #16  
Old 02-21-2010, 03:06 PM
Beachbumcook's Avatar
Beachbumcook
Beachbumcook is offline
Got Diesel?
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,345
Received 20 Likes on 7 Posts
Just to be fair, below is a link to a Jan 2009 article in Diesel Power Magazine regarding the practice of using used ATF fluid... and reasons NOT to use.

Automatic Transmission Fluid Fuel - Alternative Diesel Fuel - Diesel Power Magazine

Interesting article, but I will NOT use or support due to the availability of other additives available that are proven and tested to work over the long run.

The last page of the article above states the reasons for not using ATF (and I agree with all of them):

CAUTION - Possible Pitfalls:

* ATF is not a legal road fuel

* Cold weather start-ups will be harder

* Hydrocarbon and ash deposits can be left behind

* Common-rail fuel systems won't handle it, as they are more temperamental. So, don't run it through your CP3 or piezo injectors

* Pollution increases, exhaust fumes may be harmful, and some smoke may be visible at idle

* May be hard to get ahold of used ATF, as many shops use their used fluids as fuel for their multi-fuel (alternative fuel) shop heaters

* There is no guarantee that even a one-micron filter will remove all metal shavings and other deposits/particles from used ATF

* You never know exactly what has been thrown into a recycled oil pan or waste oil bin at your local shop. There is no guarantee that anti-freeze, brake fluid, or even gasoline wasn't deposited into the same pan.
 
  #17  
Old 02-21-2010, 03:56 PM
floorman70's Avatar
floorman70
floorman70 is offline
New User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
In my situation I live in florida so pollution, legality, and cold starts are of no concern. I'm not to concerned about deposits due to egr delete. My supply is readily available pumped and filtered at dealer saved by tech for sole purpose of refueling my truck so in my situation it equals $$ in my pocket but not everyone has the same situatiun
 
  #18  
Old 02-21-2010, 05:35 PM
jdc228's Avatar
jdc228
jdc228 is offline
Junior User
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
floorman70...it's your truck and you can paint it pink if you want! Good luck!
 
  #19  
Old 02-21-2010, 05:55 PM
floorman70's Avatar
floorman70
floorman70 is offline
New User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It is pink with zebra print seats
 
  #20  
Old 02-21-2010, 06:02 PM
janton01's Avatar
janton01
janton01 is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Pilesgrove NJ
Posts: 147
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I mix Dieselkleen white bottle with TCW3 outboard oil 50/50. I add about 8 oz per fill up. The outboard oil is ashless dispersant and designed to burn in the 2 stroke engines so should not pose any problems. It have noticed that the truck seems a bit quieter and cold starts are a bit easier. The lack of sulfer in our fuel really knocks down its ability to lubricate the injectors.
 
  #21  
Old 02-21-2010, 06:24 PM
Beachbumcook's Avatar
Beachbumcook
Beachbumcook is offline
Got Diesel?
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,345
Received 20 Likes on 7 Posts
Originally Posted by janton01
I mix Dieselkleen white bottle with TCW3 outboard oil 50/50. I add about 8 oz per fill up. The outboard oil is ashless dispersant and designed to burn in the 2 stroke engines so should not pose any problems. It have noticed that the truck seems a bit quieter and cold starts are a bit easier. The lack of sulfer in our fuel really knocks down its ability to lubricate the injectors.
The ULSD fuel did at first have lower lubricity, but refiners are adding back the appropiate lubricity during or after the refining process. Where the sulfur was the lube agent, or part of it, other chemicals or refining of some sort are being added to the fuel.

I read this on the internet or on the Chevron or some other fuel/oil company's website. At first this was the case, but not so much anymore. However, I use fuel additives (more for the lubricity) as a precaution and I just myself more than I trust the oil companies.
 
  #22  
Old 02-21-2010, 08:49 PM
ljutic ss's Avatar
ljutic ss
ljutic ss is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Green Lane, Pa.
Posts: 2,392
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
The lubricity levels of ULSD did not diminish because of the lack of sulfur, but because of the hydro-treating process to remove the sulfur and aromatic levels.
 
  #23  
Old 02-21-2010, 09:08 PM
mojo1's Avatar
mojo1
mojo1 is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: in the fast lane
Posts: 938
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I use the DK white bottle when cold and the 2-stroke oil ( about 1 oz. per gallon ) every fill up. I did'nt add anything for a couple of tanks to see if i could tell a differance and could, with additives especially on cold mornings below 30 the truck run alot smoother on crank up and even after it had warmed up. I have been running this for over a year now.
 
  #24  
Old 02-21-2010, 10:53 PM
Lubbockguy1979's Avatar
Lubbockguy1979
Lubbockguy1979 is offline
Cargo Master
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Lubbock
Posts: 2,757
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
i use two stroke oil. seems to smooth things out and run quieter. every couple of months i use a fuel system cleaner such as diesel kleen. two stroke oil out performs diesel kleen in lubrication. atf and wmo had very little lubrication in comparison
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Hossfly05
Excursion - King of SUVs
10
02-20-2015 09:28 PM
Bvill01
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
14
01-27-2013 06:11 PM
brohunter
Delaware Chapter
13
04-30-2010 10:10 AM
makohon
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
12
01-08-2008 02:50 PM
kc2006
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
17
01-04-2005 08:55 AM



Quick Reply: Fuel Additive



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:08 AM.