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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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At least they're fixing them cheap. Still sucks to have the truck down, especially if it's your daily driver. Do they know when the new ones will be out?
 
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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I've not heard any recent updates.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 02:41 AM
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That's a nice pump you have Mech. And the reason that it's surviving so well is the size of the pipe, IMO. Does that 1/2" pipe go all the way to the cylinder heads?
 
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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Finally got my Carter pre-pump...pump installed tonight. Just took it for a short drive. Like Cookie my truck started pretty fast but i haven't noticed to much more yet. Seems like it may be running a little quieter. Will get a better chance tomorrow when i take it to work; a 35 minute ride.

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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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Did you mash the skinny pedal yet? Should make you smile...just a little bit.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mech2161
I've not heard any recent updates.
I emailed Aeromotive, asking about the problems they've been having with the A1000 in a diesel application and when they should be coming out with a diesel specific one. I found it interesting that they basically claim they've got no problems with the A1000 used on a pure diesel application. In fact, they said that the A1000 pump is the one suggested for my application. They also reccomended that a water seperator be added after the pump, rather than have a pre-pump water seperator. They did however, suggest a more coarse pre-pump filter. So, perhaps the failures are happening more often in applications where they are running a pre-pump water seperator & filter.

Here's their email to me:
"Jeremy,

Aeromotive has not done qualification testing with the A1000 pump on diesel fuel, but they have been used effectively with diesel fuel for years. Diesel fuel conducts electricity better than gasoline, so there’s some reduction in service life with diesel but, properly installed with the correct sized feed line, pickup tube and filtration, 50,000 run miles or more have been documented in a number of cases.

Now, the term “diesel fuel” has become a rather broad fuel definition that now encompasses everything from waste vegetable oil, bio-diesel fuels and petroleum diesel #2, which may be alloyed with the aforementioned in some small or large way. In the past, honest, #2 grade diesel fuel, refined from oil, has never been an issue as outlined above. Those who are playing with “diesel fuel” variants may have issues due to any number of causes from viscosity to chemical make-up.

Assuming you’ll be using true #2 diesel, I would suggest the 11101 fuel pump, a bypass regulator placed at the inlet of the injector pump or BEFORE the fuel rail on the later ford engines. You’ll need to prepare the tank with a true 5/8” or larger outlet, pickup tubes can be used but a bottom outlet is best. Put the Aeromotive 100-micron SS filter on the suction side, and a finer filter and/or water separator on the pump OUTLET, like either P/N 12301 or Perma-Cool’s water separator P/N 81794. NOTE: Aeromotive Marine grade fuel pumps are rated for true #2 diesel, carry a 2 year warranty, but are more expensive than the automotive grade products."
 
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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Sounds like basically the same system that Mech2161 has installed.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 11:45 PM
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Yes it does. I just don't know what type of filters he's got before and after the pump.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 12:56 AM
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It also sounds like they have the same issue I was suggesting in the other thread about running to fine of a filter before the pump and causing to much suction restriction.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 01:49 AM
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I'm beginning to believe that would be correct. The extra strain placed on the pump by a pre-pump filter can lead to premature failure. However, ITP's website says the Dahl 150 (what I have) is approved for use with the A1000 pump. So, I'm thinking I won't have to change my filter setup. Just switch the pump and get some larger supply lines.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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I just got off the phone with Dahl/Baldwin and was asking them about using a low pressure, high volume pump before the filter. Good news!! The Dahl is actually rated for input pressures up to 20 psi. Looking at the Carter Competition Series Silver Pump, it only has a working pressure of 6-8 psi, no regulator required and a free flow of 100 Gph. So, it looks like this will work for me, and I don't have to get rid of my Dahl.

Cookie, is this the same pump you got? Link here, second one down, P/N 180-P4600HP:

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...0307&langId=-1
 
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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jt, on one of cookies other threads he said he ordered a 72GPH @ 6psi pump. Most likely the P4070 as it shouldn't require much since it's just a 'helper' pump. I should have one delivered today.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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Hey!!! I was wondering where you've been. Haven't seen your names on the boards in a while.

I agree with you that it the stock pump probably wouldn't need any more than the 72 GPH. Now that you mention it, I do remember seeing that. For me, I'll probably go with the bigger one though. I do plan on upgrading the stock fuel pump to something like mech has, and I feel that the larger Carter pump would work better with the higher flowing A1000. Along with that will come the larger fuel pickup, and bigger lines from the tank to the engine.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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Been a little busy here lately and only have had time to scan the posts, not much replying... taking a break today.

Well, brown just showed up with my pump and had a little surprise gift packed inside. Moma is having a girly party of some kind Saturday, so it sounds like an appropriate time to break out the camera and get the pump mounted! I'll try and get this mod added to the pages when done.

 
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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Yep....the 4070 is the one I selected. Simply because it was not expensive and I intended this to be little more than a field trial. May have to upgrade a little once I get the stage II's installed.

Nice hat 'eh guzzle92. Fit's well too.
 
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