What's the difference between Type F ATF and Power steering fluid
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What's the difference between Type F ATF and Power steering fluid
I siphoned out all the fluid from my power steering pump recently. It looked nasty. I had corrosion cause me big problems for power steering in another vehicle and since brake and PS fluid absorbs moisture, I like to change them out now and then. I went to the auto parts store and got some power steering fluid and put it in the power steering resovior. I was browsing the Haynes manual and it said it calls for Type F ATF as power steering fluid. Whats the deal?
The power steering seems very happy since its gotten fresh fluid, so I guess no problem.
The power steering seems very happy since its gotten fresh fluid, so I guess no problem.
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In most Fords never use power steering fluid, it will cause all kinds of problems and also makes noise.
Look at your owner’s manual, if it says use type "F" (and more than likely it will) use it.
ATF type "F" is 10W base oil with anti foaming and some PS fluids are 5W and this can cause leaks.
Look at your owner’s manual, if it says use type "F" (and more than likely it will) use it.
ATF type "F" is 10W base oil with anti foaming and some PS fluids are 5W and this can cause leaks.
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What have you done?
So what have you done? Did you replace it with ATF fluid? Or still taking your chances with ps fluid?
I don't think anyone has told you what the difference is between ps fluid and ATF fluid.
What vehicle did you do this in? I'm in the same boat as you, so i'd like to find out.
I don't think anyone has told you what the difference is between ps fluid and ATF fluid.
What vehicle did you do this in? I'm in the same boat as you, so i'd like to find out.
Originally Posted by puck1263
I siphoned out all the fluid from my power steering pump recently. It looked nasty. I had corrosion cause me big problems for power steering in another vehicle and since brake and PS fluid absorbs moisture, I like to change them out now and then. I went to the auto parts store and got some power steering fluid and put it in the power steering resovior. I was browsing the Haynes manual and it said it calls for Type F ATF as power steering fluid. Whats the deal?
The power steering seems very happy since its gotten fresh fluid, so I guess no problem.
The power steering seems very happy since its gotten fresh fluid, so I guess no problem.
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If you have a manual, check it. The Fords appear to be using 2 or 3 different fluids depending on year and model.
Coincidentally this weekend I was working on my 04 Lincoln, it requrie Mercon(don't think they specified which) for steering fluid. I think but need to check, my 94 F250 uses mercon also.
There are several brands of Power Steering fluid that seem to be generic replacements. Most of the decent brands do mention which spec they meet, so I would look at the manual for that. The two or three bottles I have, Valvoline syn, Prestone and Slick 50(yeow), all talk generically and do not mention F, Dexron, Mercon etc, but they do mention spec. BTW, the Valvoline syn bottle did not mention anything about Ford if I recall.
Good Luck,
Jim Henderson
Coincidentally this weekend I was working on my 04 Lincoln, it requrie Mercon(don't think they specified which) for steering fluid. I think but need to check, my 94 F250 uses mercon also.
There are several brands of Power Steering fluid that seem to be generic replacements. Most of the decent brands do mention which spec they meet, so I would look at the manual for that. The two or three bottles I have, Valvoline syn, Prestone and Slick 50(yeow), all talk generically and do not mention F, Dexron, Mercon etc, but they do mention spec. BTW, the Valvoline syn bottle did not mention anything about Ford if I recall.
Good Luck,
Jim Henderson
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Original question
What's the difference Type F ATF & Power steering fluid?
Answer:
Most Power Steering fluids (except for High Performance full synthetic and Honda PS fluids) are very close to the same formulation as most modern ATF's, I.E they contain friction modifiers.
Type F fluid contains no friction modifiers, but does contain a goodly amount of anti-wear, seal swell, and anti-foam additives.
What's the difference Type F ATF & Power steering fluid?
Answer:
Most Power Steering fluids (except for High Performance full synthetic and Honda PS fluids) are very close to the same formulation as most modern ATF's, I.E they contain friction modifiers.
Type F fluid contains no friction modifiers, but does contain a goodly amount of anti-wear, seal swell, and anti-foam additives.
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Originally Posted by 98explorerltd
THe manual says use ATF. But if i had power steering fluid in there, what kind of damage am I doing? SHould I siphon it out and replace it with ATF?
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The listed below are power steering pumps which require Type F fluid:
79-97 All, incl. Explorer, Navajo, Expedition, ex..F150, F250, Ranger
85-95 Aerostar
78-96 Vans
96-98 Windstar
79-95 All, incl. Topaz, Escort, EXP, Lynx, LN7, Pinto
Bobcat, Granada, Tempo, Monarch, Versailles
91-98 Escort, Capri
87-98 Tracer
94-97 Aspire
95 Contour, Mystique
Mecron Transmission fluid should be used for the following:
96-00 All incl. Taurus, Sable, Continental,
ex. Windstar, Tracer, Escort, Capri, Aspire
95 Contour and Mystique
96-00 Ranger, Bronco II, Aerostar, Excursion
97-00 F150, F250, Vans, Navigator
95-00 Explorer, Mountaineer
93-00 Villager
99-00 Tracer
Its alway safer to follow what the Ford Manufacture is requiring for the product.
I worked at a Ford Dealership a number of years, and we used Motorcraft Type F or Mecron on the power steering pumps when recommended.
Type F and Mecron transmission fluid are not interchangable.
It seems easier sometimes to grab the only transmission bottle (say Mecron or ATF3) when Type F trans fluid was not around, to top off a power steering pump.
Here's the process of flushing out the power steering pump https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...2&postcount=10
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79-97 All, incl. Explorer, Navajo, Expedition, ex..F150, F250, Ranger
85-95 Aerostar
78-96 Vans
96-98 Windstar
79-95 All, incl. Topaz, Escort, EXP, Lynx, LN7, Pinto
Bobcat, Granada, Tempo, Monarch, Versailles
91-98 Escort, Capri
87-98 Tracer
94-97 Aspire
95 Contour, Mystique
Mecron Transmission fluid should be used for the following:
96-00 All incl. Taurus, Sable, Continental,
ex. Windstar, Tracer, Escort, Capri, Aspire
95 Contour and Mystique
96-00 Ranger, Bronco II, Aerostar, Excursion
97-00 F150, F250, Vans, Navigator
95-00 Explorer, Mountaineer
93-00 Villager
99-00 Tracer
Its alway safer to follow what the Ford Manufacture is requiring for the product.
I worked at a Ford Dealership a number of years, and we used Motorcraft Type F or Mecron on the power steering pumps when recommended.
Type F and Mecron transmission fluid are not interchangable.
It seems easier sometimes to grab the only transmission bottle (say Mecron or ATF3) when Type F trans fluid was not around, to top off a power steering pump.
Here's the process of flushing out the power steering pump https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...2&postcount=10
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