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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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Cutting the Cat

When I install my stacks, I am considering removing the cat. Is this legal with emission standards, or are diesels exempt from these laws (specifically in NJ)? I know there was some talk recently about creating new emissions laws for diesels. Also, where is the best place to get the piping and clamps to get the job done? My kit for the stacks from Black Cloud came with an addaptor for 3.5", so that is the size pipe I'll replace the cat with. How do I couple the new pipe to the pipe in front of where the cat used to be?
Also, when I see the stacks with black smoke pumping out, how does that happen? Is that a result of a chip/tuner or lack of a cat? Whatever it is, it's bad ***.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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not legal,federal law
 
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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its not legal but take a poll and you find many have done it. do you have a stock down pipe? if you do i would recommend replacing it and the expand you pipe right off that to 4 inch then into your stack system.

the smoke is unburned fuel by a truck with too much chip (fuel) for the air that is provided. while this looks cool i am not a fan of blowing unburned fuel into the air as is expensive to put in. now if i had 4 position chip and i could blown smoke everynow and then you bet i would but not all the time!
 

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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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Does the DMV look for a cat when the do inspections? Or is it better to gut the cat instead of removal?
 
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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if the truck came with a cat from the factory then you might get away with out it or put an emty cat on, the ony diesel emmissions test in nj is a smoke test for trucks 18,000lbs and up, my 89 has duel stright pipes loud as all hell. they looked at it for 5 min then tested the lights and brakes then slaped on the 2 year sticker
 
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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I don't think it is legal to remove a cat. if your vehicle has to be inspected you should probably be stealthy in your modifications.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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I would be very stealthy, especially in Jersey.

I got popped there last week for my straight pipe (warning for noise). Guess the cop did not like the turbo whine.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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What kind of import loving 4 cylinder driving half a man wouldn't love the sound of a big 7.3L spinning the turbo???

Hmmmm, wait maybe he did like it! You only got a warning!
 
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 08:40 AM
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Why do our trucks (94-97) have cats and some of the early super dutys dont then the newer ones have a cat again?
 
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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I am working with Dale at Tymar right now putting togethr a new exhaust system. His recommendation: Replace the cat with a resonator. It is a hollow device that looks very much like a cat. Save your original. If you ever have a need to put it back on, you'll be glad you saved it because new ones are very expensive.
This is the gospel according to Dale.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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I guess I really got his attention. I had it in low lock, granny gear and was pulling my uncles tractor (Rig) from the corner (where it broke down) to his house (1/2 block away). It was singing about 2,200 rpms. I imagine it was quite loud when that open pipe past his open cruiser window at about 5 mph. He was sitting in the middle of the block shooting radar.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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You had to have gotten a picture of that! It puts a smile on my face just thinking about it.
I guess you went over the tow rating a little bit, huh?!
 
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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I live in NY and I asked a shop who does inspections today about the cat issue today.He told me if the truck was over 8600 gvw it is exempt from a cat,which is good cause "I aint got one".
 
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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here in GA all diesel are exempt from emissions. yes they come with cats but thats only to appease EPA

i love the south

-cutts-
 
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