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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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Hey, I was just trying to help other people understand it. You said you didn't understand, so I tried to help. Am I out of line? Should I not try to further explain it?
Hey...don't worry. I didn't mean anything at all. It was way late last night, and I was not grasping the concept at all. I think I get it now though.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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JD...I'm just outside Philly also, in fact I'm still at work at the Airport!

Let's go to the Tinicum Inn and talk about it over a beer!
JD and Don - I grew up in Delco and am now in West Chester...wouldn't Lou Turks be a better place for a beer?

Matt
 
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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I have no idea what's to drink down that way...I'm in the city. Too easy to take a cab or a train wherever, and not have to drive anywhere. Honestly, I used to live in NJ, and moved back to Philly almost solely for my social life. It's tough having to drive to a bar, and then only have one or two beers the whole night so you stay out of trouble on the way home. City life makes it easier...

Now driving around the city in this weather? That's another story
 
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dag
Now the more important qusetion....whats the airspeed velocity of a swallow?
A European swallow or an un-laden African swallow?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 10:41 PM
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Matt....Ahhhh, Lou Turk's!! Haven't been there in a while. Was driving by it the other day with a guy from work, and he says, "Look, they bricked up the window I got thrown out of!"

What a place!
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 02:51 AM
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No. This has probably been said already but here's why. the plane is not actually moving but the engines are going full tilt. The engines do not provide lift, only thrust. The wings airfoil shape provides the lift so if there is no air travelling over/under the wings the plane will not be able to take flight.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Neb86
A European swallow or an un-laden African swallow?
I think the european models are sleeker thus faster??? ...
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 09:23 AM
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Post #61 had it first but worth relinking here....

http://avweb.com/news/columns/191034-1.html

Those of us who said it would fly are right, at least if you can believe the aviation experts....
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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The way I see it, There are factors that are being ignored.
The plane flys because of air flowing over the wing which produces "lift". The "thrust" of the engine moves the plane forward THRU the air therefore producing "air flow". If the plane doesn't move forward in relation to the envelope of "air" there is no flow, no lift, and the plane will not fly, regardless of the amount of "thrust". The wheels have nothing what so ever to do with the plane flying.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Nitramjr
Post #61 had it first but worth relinking here....

http://avweb.com/news/columns/191034-1.html

Those of us who said it would fly are right, at least if you can believe the aviation experts....
I wonder how many times, through history, the 'experts' have been wrong.....
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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The plane is moving because the engines are producing thrust against the air around the plane. Once it reaches its take off speed, it will of course, take off.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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Wow. 6 pages and this is still going 'round and 'round. Time to call Myth Busters. I'd love to see this topic on their show.

BTW, The correct answer is the plane will fly.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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DA PLANE,,,,DA PLANE ,,, Thats all I come up with
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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I have seen the light. The plane will fly as explained in that article.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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Nah, the plane cant move, it wont fly, the belt would be the same as sinking the landing gear in concrete!
 
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