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Originally Posted by chrono4
the only reason they have the marketshare they do is because advertising, and the fact that up until recently there hasnt been as many easy to find software for unix/linux distros. lately theres been lots of upgraded insoftware for these systems and its getting better all the time.
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From: Oak Harbor, OH
If MS doesn't wake up their market share will continute to decrease. 90% of the corporate world is running some flavor of *nix on their servers. WIndows XP can't claim 99% uptime. Unix/Linux can. Windows major flaws are it's registry, and it's memory handling. Rather than clearing memory it just keeps trying to stuff more into it. This leads to overuse of swap files, and slow machines requiring more frequent reboots.
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Originally Posted by pfogle
If MS doesn't wake up their market share will continute to decrease. 90% of the corporate world is running some flavor of *nix on their servers. WIndows XP can't claim 99% uptime. Unix/Linux can. Windows major flaws are it's registry, and it's memory handling. Rather than clearing memory it just keeps trying to stuff more into it. This leads to overuse of swap files, and slow machines requiring more frequent reboots.
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From: Oak Harbor, OH
The biggest hurdles have already been overcome. KDE, and GNOME both offer an awesome window manager that rivals windows. The biggest thing holding it back are the games. Open Office is now included with most distros, and can open and manipulate almost all MS Office files... I'll admit that occasionally the formatting gets messed up in the conversion. So no, it's not perfect, but it's leaps and bounds from where it was ten years ago.
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From: West Valley Utah
Originally Posted by MRKnight
mistakenID -7 PCs in a home is quite a few. You use more than one of those for yourself?
Wife has hers, grandma has hers, one is setup for visitors in a central location. I do a lot of beta testing so one is dedicated to that and a couple are crunching numbers for SETI and cancer research. VMware is a great idea that I just never got around to. I usually boot to one OS and tend to just run it 24/7 until something happens that requires a reboot and then maybe boot to the other OS.
I'll make a bet that in the next 5 years, MS goes to a subscription based service. Probably X dollars for a year for Windows 2010 and Office 15. Kind of like anti virus makers for continued pattern updates.
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From: Oak Harbor, OH
And that's why I refuse to support them now. I won't pay for a subcription based anti-virus, AVG Free works better than norton or mcaffee. I'm not goin to pay a yeary fee to be able to operate MY own personal property.
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From: Elkhart IN
yea, on the avg antivirus, we used nortons for a long time, but i switched to avg and its tons better, and its free. i had problems with using nortons because im behind 2 hubs, and a firewall, so it would report errors while downloading updates, avg does it fine.
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From: north west new jersey
i would buy it.and am waiting for the beta 1 to hit my house as i am a tech net subscriber around aug 5th
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From: Enjoying the real world.
Originally Posted by 77fordguy
it will still be a long time before microsoft will have to worry about linux.
1. Microsoft advertising in Linux magazines.
2. Microsoft writing "articles" comparing the total cost of ownership.
3. Steve Balmer making comments during interviews that Linux is a threat.
4. Microsoft comparing open source to non-open source.
Those are right off the top of my head. I'm sure 10 minutes in Google could reveal more. Microsoft is worried about Linux, and has been for quite some time.
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Ken, you're aboslutely right.. MS has been keeping an eye on the Linux community for a few years now. They see it as a threat more to their corporate sales. Linux is becoming the OS of choice for many servers, due to the better reliability and uptime capabilities.
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From: Abilene Kansas
Faster CPUs have heat issues to contend with
Matt
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From: Abilene Kansas
show me a novice user who can use linux... im more experienced than almost anyone and i really dont like linux... but i can use and write programs for it.. ill stick with windows as i have no problems with it..
my pc has been on for 2 months without even so much as a restart and its a fact.. my friends all think im crazy but my pc is a badazz, i cant tell any diff
Matt
my pc has been on for 2 months without even so much as a restart and its a fact.. my friends all think im crazy but my pc is a badazz, i cant tell any diff
Matt
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From: Oak Harbor, OH
Matt, you are probably running a machine that you built, or had built to your specs. Take an off the shelf pc and see how long it runs... I can show you a woman in the late 50s that can barely use windows, that can use linux.. My mother.
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If you are a MS fan read this:
http://personal-computer-tutor.com/abc3/v30/john30.htm
I wrote this article a long time ago and an e-zine picked it up.
I use it, of course, but I think it's a crime how he came about his fortune. (Gates, that is)
I wrote this article a long time ago and an e-zine picked it up.
I use it, of course, but I think it's a crime how he came about his fortune. (Gates, that is)
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From: Georgia
I use win2k/suse, my wife uses xp, my son uses xp pro, my daughter uses 98se. Of the windows versions we have win2k seems the most stable. I only reboot when I want to switch between winows and linux. Xp is way too flashy and resource hungry. If longhorn or vista whatever they are calling it runs better than 2k without all the silly eyecandy bs that xp has and without all the hold your hand wizards xp has I will use it. I took xp off my machine and installed win2k. It runs alot better. I most certainly hope vista does not give us a flashback to millenium.
Last edited by 70blue; Aug 1, 2005 at 02:32 PM.